Amumu is soooo bad

[quote=DuffTime][quote=TheJohn] Rammus is the worst champion a person could choose. [/quote] Ironic seeing as he's considered a terror in high elo ^_^[/quote]

[quote=samgoeslol]well rammus is a rough jungler that transitions decently and has awesome ganks[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Seeing as new jungle = 2 easy, he's a great pick.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=TheJohn] [quote=NicknameMy] [[rammus]] still can act as a support, because he has a taunt, which reduces armor. Perfect for an ad-carry. [/quote] Rammus is the worst champion a person could choose. And if you want taunt, get Shen. [/quote] Actually. Rammus has such immense map pressure, that he is similar to shaco in that his ganks are extremely dangerous and he changes the entire way the game is played. I ban rammus/shaco most of the times i play, simply because they are too much pain to deal with. [quote="DuffTime"] Nhat Nguyen or whatever has been playing support shaco o___o[/quote] Yeah, it's very possible for double damage lanes to beat sustain lanes like soraka/AD Carry in lane. I feel though, that a properly runed soraka would just tank boxes and shut down shaco. Soraka can walk into lane with 663 (Veteran Scars + Ruby Crystal + base health) health and 73 (30base +27runes +16passive) mr if she wants.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=TheJohn] [quote=NicknameMy] [[rammus]] still can act as a support, because he has a taunt, which reduces armor. Perfect for an ad-carry. [/quote] Rammus is the worst champion a person could choose. And if you want taunt, get Shen. [/quote] Oh John, you crack me up...:P[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I don't really feel Soraka could shut down his boxes, not the way I watched Nhat playing him.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]Before I was level 30, I could play Amumu or Rammus effectively in lane. While I was in the learning process of jungling, I solo-qued with Amumu and there were 4 other people that would not give up their positions. One desperately wanted mid, 2 desperately wanted bottom together and the other desperately wanted to jungle the new champion, whoever it was at the time. I successfully laned 1v2 up top and we won the game. I have to admit, it is hard as balls, but they will regret diving or trying to gank you, much the same as Rammus. BUT, they are both a bajillion times better in the jungle, as we all know.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Pre level 30 you could have fucking AD carried with Leblanc. They're all idiots. :P What you do there means nothing. I got a penta with Mundo, by stacking 3 Sunfire Capes.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]That's not quite true Duff... :P Occasionally you run into people who are destined for high elo :P[/quote]

[quote=Atarios]How about skarner? Is he meant to stay in jungle too?[/quote]