SOPA - discuss

[quote=Babit]You think occupy wallstreet was a big deal? Big shots have been fucking with our money for years. But our internet? inb4 American revolt. Straight up.[/quote]

[quote=example1013]FYI, the sky is not falling, SOPA likely violates the First Amendment (protection of freedom of expression), and even if it were passed as-is in both the House and Senate, and signed by the President, it would almost certainly still be challenged and shot down in court. The United States lawmaking system provides so many loopholes with which to stop a law from being put into effect that it's a wonder anything passes at all.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Sometimes I want to punch my screen really, really hard.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][quote=wRAthoFVuLK] that guy is my new favorite congressman (not that I had one previously, nor do I live in Colorado) [/quote] too bad SD is such a right wing state T.T[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Anandre] [quote=Mooninites] So anyway, Riot posted today about SOPA and I want to get everyone's educated opinion - if you don't know what an educated opinion is, do some research outside of what riot posted because clearly they have a biased view on the matter and aren't posting all the facts about the bill, just as the supporters of the bill like to use misinformation [/quote] I know you're trying to promote fair discussion and all, but this isn't the way to do it. If SOPA, PIPA and similar bills pass, then the Internet as we know it will cease to exist. That's not an exaggeration. The corporations are shutting down the ordinary citizens and limiting what we can do because it might cut into their profits. Corporations might be considered people under the law, but they are the most soulless creatures on the planet. [/quote] dumb statements like this are exactly what I don't want you are correct[/quote]

[quote=Anandre]My comment is not dumb, nor is it uninformed. I've been following SOPA for a lot longer than since Riot has made a topic about it, and I know what's going to happen from this. If you look at similar strategies tried by the MPAA, RIAA, et al in the past, you'll see similar wishes in them (arbitrarily shutting down websites, pulling content, etc.). See what Universal did with the MegaUpload song on Youtube. SOPA is not going to end well for common Internet citizens. Also, the Supreme Court has been siding with major corporations for years now. Don't expect any relief from them.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Anandre] My comment is not dumb, nor is it uninformed. I've been following SOPA for a lot longer than since Riot has made a topic about it, and I know what's going to happen from this. If you look at similar strategies tried by the MPAA, RIAA, et al in the past, you'll see similar wishes in them (arbitrarily shutting down websites, pulling content, etc.). See what Universal did with the MegaUpload song on Youtube. SOPA is not going to end well for common Internet citizens. Also, the Supreme Court has been siding with major corporations for years now. Don't expect any relief from them. [/quote] Just because you've been following SOPA since October does not make you more informed than the common idiot that just found out about whenever Riot posted their stance. You have no idea what will come from this potential law, as much of a prophet you think you are. This is the first major attempt by the government to stop online piracy so the fact that the supreme court has a tendency to lean for protection of corporations has hardly anything to do with this. There are many corporations against SOPA as well, so this isn't a matter of corporation vs. common man. Also the difference is Universal played a part in allowing MegaUpload, therefore it has consent, where these illegal download or reproduction of audio/visual tracks do not. That's the difference, one's illegal, the other isn't.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Mooninites] This is the first major attempt by the government to stop online piracy... [/quote] What? US has already forced a law in Spain that's SOPA-esque. I was already researching SOPA before RIOT even made it's stance as well. So much will be shut down because of how badly the bill is worded. Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, just to name a few. This bill is bad-news-bears, end of story.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=Mooninites] This is the first major attempt by the government to stop online piracy... [/quote] What? US has already forced a law in Spain that's SOPA-esque. I was already researching SOPA before RIOT even made it's stance as well. So much will be shut down because of how badly the bill is worded. Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, just to name a few. This bill is bad-news-bears, end of story. [/quote] don't take this personal. But it seems everyone somehow knew about SOPA before Riot posted something about but never even bothered to comment on it until now? Find it hard to believe, even if I have more faith in you than most people. I actually think the bill is very precise, not badly worded. And who cares about the US enforcing the law in Spain, we're talking about US citizens and websites[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Actually there was a thread in off-topic about it around a month ago I think. If I remember rightly it went to around 4 or 5 pages.[/quote]