Taggrin's Solo Queue Tier List

[quote=Joobieo#41288]Sona & soraka need to be Tier one., At the moment Sona almost always wins her lane. Win your lane, win your game ; 0[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]To the jungel tier list cho is good but not god mod also riven does the same with more dmg why is she then so low? She is still pretty strong also Tryn is way better then Nasus and Gp in jungel gp is decent nasus can be counter jungled all day and wont even notice as he is way to slow. Tryn on the other hand is quite fast has a rly great late game and a good slow spinn for ganks.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Nooooooooooo jungle Tryn is in no way shape or from better than jungle GP. Not today, not tomorrow, never.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Well he is fast then gp and has a high end game dmg out put. On the other hand Gp has hugh team buffs, is very tanky and a global ulti so yeah depends on what you want. But at least you share my point he is way better the jungel nasus. Jungel nasus just don't get the farm he needs.[/quote]

[quote=Restrictnine#5232]Gp and Tryn both require too much farm to be op in jungle. particularly tryn. chogath has good ganks and fast cleartime, and INCREDIBLE objective control. sona tier 1, soraka easy countered[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Almost, but not really. GP can easily use Shurelya's and Randuin's, meaning he can build PHilo and Hog. Later you can pick up a Triforce and an I.E and something else either offensive or defensive and you've got a solid jungler with a great kit and GP10. You can go the standard wriggles into everything else builds but you'll never farm a warmogg's fast enough to be effective early/mid game if you ask me. GP has enough farm independent utility, and such good ganks with red buff Q's that I do consider him to be a potent pick in the jungle. It's just not the crushing Q spam you see in a solo lane GP, it's more utility based. Now for Tryn, that is absolutely the case, and that's exactly why he's not a good jungler. Cho analysis is spot on, he's stellar.[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]Hm...you have some good points there i have to test that.[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Joobieo] Win your lane, win your game ; 0 [/quote] Not true. You're not wrong, there are cases that you win your lane and the rest of the game is easy, but the rest of the team must cooperate. I've played many matches that I won my lane and lost the game because 2 teammates sucked. You can't generalize things I wasnt expecting to see Leona on the bottom of the list. She's Tier 3 imo And Karma is Tier 3 now? Neither Garen nor Twisted Fate deserve such high place, get them down to Tier 3[/quote]

[quote=Joobieo#41288][quote=TheJohn] [quote=Joobieo] Win your lane, win your game ; 0 [/quote] Not true. You're not wrong, there are cases that you win your lane and the rest of the game is easy, but the rest of the team must cooperate. I've played many matches that I won my lane and lost the game because 2 teammates sucked. You can't generalize things I wasnt expecting to see Leona on the bottom of the list. She's Tier 3 imo And Karma is Tier 3 now? Neither Garen nor Twisted Fate deserve such high place, get them down to Tier 3 [/quote] Win your lane win your game. The only time I've lost a game after I've won my lane is due to luck reasons ( aka losing baron ) or if I'm supporting I still can't carry it. Sadly..[/quote]

[quote=TheJohn][quote=Joobieo] [quote=TheJohn] [quote=Joobieo] Win your lane, win your game ; 0 [/quote] Not true. You're not wrong, there are cases that you win your lane and the rest of the game is easy, but the rest of the team must cooperate. I've played many matches that I won my lane and lost the game because 2 teammates sucked. You can't generalize things I wasnt expecting to see Leona on the bottom of the list. She's Tier 3 imo And Karma is Tier 3 now? Neither Garen nor Twisted Fate deserve such high place, get them down to Tier 3 [/quote] Win your lane win your game. The only time I've lost a game after I've won my lane is due to luck reasons ( aka losing baron ) or if I'm supporting I still can't carry it. Sadly.. [/quote] Please, dont be idiot, you know that doesnt work every time[/quote]