How the top lane is playing these days

[quote=DuffTime]If I'm not mistakes WW also has a mana bar. Just sprayin.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Off the top of my head: [[Gangplank]] [[Riven]] [[Udyr]] But basically anyone with high damage harass and/or sustain of their own (eg almost every popular top lane). Warwick runs out of mana [i]very[/i] quickly if he's forced to use Q early, faster than almost any other champion in the game. I'm sure Duff can give you a big 'ol list of counters.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I think WW is decent in a solo tbh, gives a number of champs a hard time, but he's like Renekton. "Win lane hard, or lose game hard because once lane phase is over he's just Renekton..." (Just ww)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Basically any energy champion who builds spellvamp or any AD champ who gets enough lifesteal will inevitably beat WW. That's his kryptonite.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]Or you can just be Cho'Gath, and right click him a bunch.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000][quote=Temzilla] Or you can just be Cho'Gath, and right click him a bunch. [/quote] Actually Khazem tells me that Warwick is an incredibly good counter to Cho'Gath. Haven't seen it myself though. :P[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=Luther3000] Off the top of my head: [[Gangplank]] [[Riven]] [[Udyr]] But basically anyone with high damage harass and/or sustain of their own. Warwick runs out of mana [i]very[/i] quickly. [/quote] Gangplank: Runs out of mana super fast if he both tries to harass and heal. Warwick does both in one spell. So long as I remembered to replace my AP quints for my Movement Speed quints in preparation for playing with WW, he's easy. Riven: Really, she's considered as a counter to him? Never had any problem with her. Udyr: Unsure if I've ever solo laned against him as WW, but I can't imagine him being too much of a problem. I play mid against LeBlancs and win. High damage harass is no problem. And I take mana regen seals. I rarely run out of mana. Bare in mind that all I need to do most of the time is survive until level 6, by harassing with Q and leaving them near half their HP. When my ult arrives, most of the time it's a simple case of R > Ignite > Q. The only exceptions are GP, with whom I have to force to use up his heal before ulting onto him, and Blitzcrank, who thanks to his mana shield, has more health than he appears to. Edit: Early, yeah, he runs out of mana really fast if he tries to heal too much pre-lvl 3. After that it's no problem. [quote=Duff]If I'm not mistakes WW also has a mana bar. Just sparyin.[/quote] Good luck trying to keep up with him mana-wise when you have to use 2/3 spells to make him lose health, when he has to use just one spell for both harass and sustain. ;) [quote=Luther3000]Actually Khazem tells me that Warwick is an incredibly good counter to Cho'Gath. Haven't seen it myself though. :P[/quote] Can't say Cho's ever been a problem. So far, the ONLY champion on League of Legends that has successfully bested me in every one of our encounters ( though that's only twice ) as WW is... Cassiopeia. Letting Brand run out of mana trying to harass with his Q is one thing. That's easy to dodge, and he runs out of mana fast. But cassiopeia's poison harassing spell does it way too fast to dodge, and it barely seems to cost any mana. She goes mid though, lucky for me. [quote=Duff]Basically any energy champion who builds spellvamp or any AD champ who gets enough lifesteal will inevitably beat WW.[/quote] Can't outsustain him with lifesteal when you receive a Q to the face every time you try and heal up. And no amount of spell vamp beats the 80% heal WW gets with his Q. ;)[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Gangplank doesn't need to heal, he can harass you without ever entering your range. Riven just massively outdamages Warwick. No way in hell Warwick could beat Udyr at an equal skill level. Udyr has much higher damage, a shield to block Warwick's Q, and almost as much sustain as Warwick. Except Udyr's sustain also gives him mana. Guardsman Bob mains Warwick at 2k Elo and he's actually stopped playing him top because he's so easily countered. He plays him in mid lane only now.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla][quote=Vapora Dark]Can't outsustain him with lifesteal when you receive a Q to the face every time you try and heal up. And no amount of spell vamp beats the 80% heal WW gets with his Q. ;) [/quote] Ever fought a Mordekaiser? Mordekaiser bullies WW pretty well. [quote=Luther3000] [quote=Temzilla] Or you can just be Cho'Gath, and right click him a bunch. [/quote] Actually Khazem tells me that Warwick is an incredibly good counter to Cho'Gath. Haven't seen it myself though. :P [/quote] Does he run Cho'Gath with a 21% attack speed page, and level E first?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Actually, he does. Well I think he only gets 15% AS in runes, but close enough.[/quote]