Ryze Runes

[quote=FunkMan]So I played a game as Ryze, first one ever, cuz i heard he hardcountered veigar. Well thats def true, and i just couldnt believe how much damage i was dishing just building tear banshees frozen heart. SO much damage for someone so tanky i think. Anyway, I was running my standard caster runes: MPen reds, Mana regen per lvel yellows, ap per lev blues, and ap quints. I really love his gameplay, and wanna see him at his full potential. The guides seem to be pretty mixed on what runes to run on him. Some say ALL MANA, some say standard caster just with AP quints replaced by MS, some say all MPen, etc. I have a ton of IP, and would be willing to invest in mana runes if u think they're worth it for him. Just trying to figure out what runes are best for this champ i love![/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Flat mana for lane crushing. Scaling mana for late game.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]You definitely don't need the mana regen or the AP runes. I'd suggest health/lvl yellows and MR blues as possibilities. I've heard mana runes work very well but I've never tried them or looked at the math behind it. Don't have enough IP or runepages to get them.[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]What duff said. Flat mana if you want to win lanes you shouldn't win (mordekaiser >_>) Scaling mana if you want to be the best tanky dps in the entire game.[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210][[Greater Mark of Insight]] (DPS) [[Greater Seal of Clarity]] or [[Greater Seal of Knowledge]] [[Greater Glyph of Intellect]] (Early DPS) [[Greater Quintessence of Intellect]] (Early DPS) Ryze is my main magic damage champ and these are the runes I run on him.[/quote]

[quote=Searz]*Listen to me, I'm VERY knowledgeable in runes(check my only guide and you'll see)* I use MrP marks Mana/lvl seals (armor would be better if you face AD) Flat Mana glyphs MS quints I take mana/lvl seals because they give 3.06 times more than the flat ones. I don't take mana/lvl in glyphs because they only give 2.27 times more than the flat ones. It's a pretty good combo.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Just as an FYI, full mana runes are not going to give you that big of a DPS increase unless they're scaling. 3 of the mana quints gives you a total of 8 damage per Q while only having 1 gives you only half the mana to cast a Q.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Yeah but at level 1 the Q is just focking incredible with flat mana :)[/quote]

[quote=FunkMan]When you guys say "flat mana" or "scaling mana" do u run mana reds blues yellows and quints (ie full page?) or still go with mpen marks?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Keep the mpen marks.[/quote]