Consensus on Jarvan, Garen, and Warwick in...

[quote=Xenasis]Jarvan is a potent jungler, and was used by Nintendude (of Monomatic eSports) in IPL4 on one occasion. He's not the best solotop, however. Warwick can win practically any solotop lane in the game and scales VERY well into late game. He's not bad at jungling, but he's such a good solotop, it's a waste, really. Warwick's only good feature for jungling is the fact his post-6 ganks are really good, and that's about it. Garen falls off too hard late game to be viable, unfortunately.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]Warwick is a top ban in ranked, lol. J4 is a sick ass ganking jungler but his top sucks. Hes a kinda risky pick.[/quote]

[quote=Wintermond]Jarvan's top is completely fine, he's strong on Eu at least.[/quote]

[quote=koksei][quote=EvilDice] Warwick is a top ban in ranked, lol. [s]J4 is a sick ass ganking jungler but his top sucks. Hes a kinda risky pick.[/s] Is okayish and great against certain setups, like GP cuz of his standard armor buff. [/quote] corrected :P[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=koksei] [quote=EvilDice] Warwick is a top ban in ranked, lol. [s]J4 is a sick ass ganking jungler but his top sucks. Hes a kinda risky pick.[/s] Is okayish and great against certain setups, like GP cuz of his standard armor buff. [/quote] corrected :P [/quote] Pushes towers better than GP, ganks better because of knock-up. Stronger mobility as well. Slows in an AoE at as early as level 2 and faster clear times too.[/quote]

[quote=koksei]I was talking about j4 top..:D[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Not to mention that his harass against melee champs is insane (but if actually being forced to melee...) If you want to let him be useful without a decent early: play him as tank/ support-tank. Philo -> Shurelia's -> Aegis and stuff.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]yea his top doesnt suck, he just loses a lot of matchups.[/quote]