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I have seen a LOT of lists on the MobaFire Blog recently, and I would like to point out some of the reasons I discredit them.
Allow me to show you my Mains:
Gangplank, but that is it. I just don't play the same champions too often. I'm the kind of guy who waits until everyone says what role they want to play, and then I pick the last one. (Usually Mid or Support)
BTW: You cannot say you main Varus because that is just ridiculous. He's way too new for someone to have figured out all the ways to play and build him, regardless of how cookie cutter the DPS builds can be.
Now, here are my list of OP champions: If anyone wants to share thoughts or wants an explanation to the above, feel free to comment and give me some feedback.
Mains
The way I see people choosing Main Champions is "I remember getting really fed this one game and I've played him like 13 times, so I have mastered him.". I personally feel that if you "Main" a champion or claim to have mastered a champion, you should have played at least 100 games with that one champion. That way, you know how to build this champion in every situation, how to play that champion in every lane, in every role, etc.
The way I see people choosing Main Champions is "I remember getting really fed this one game and I've played him like 13 times, so I have mastered him.". I personally feel that if you "Main" a champion or claim to have mastered a champion, you should have played at least 100 games with that one champion. That way, you know how to build this champion in every situation, how to play that champion in every lane, in every role, etc.
Allow me to show you my Mains:
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Gangplank, but that is it. I just don't play the same champions too often. I'm the kind of guy who waits until everyone says what role they want to play, and then I pick the last one. (Usually Mid or Support)BTW: You cannot say you main
Varus because that is just ridiculous. He's way too new for someone to have figured out all the ways to play and build him, regardless of how cookie cutter the DPS builds can be.
Over Powered Champions
A pet peeve of mine is people always claiming certain champs to be really over powered. I think I will just make a list of champion who can be misconstrued as over powered but really aren't.
A pet peeve of mine is people always claiming certain champs to be really over powered. I think I will just make a list of champion who can be misconstrued as over powered but really aren't.
- Xin Zhao- He is just too horrible late game, because he has to get "In the enemy's face" to deal any damage, and any team can just focus him down to nothing.
- Tryndamere- Kite this sucker and there's nothing he can do. Easy to kill with even a moderate amount of cc and minimal team coordination.
- Sion- Just don't let him get farm, bro.
- Veigar- He is soooo weak early game. Your team should capitalize on that. Yes, he is a monster late game. QSS should be able to stop his stun in a teamfight, so look out for that. And again, Just don't let him farm, bro.
- Shaco- First of all, AP Shaco is a joke. Second of all, while he may get fed early game, he doesn't have a huge presence late game. Kind of like Twitch and Evelynn, but not as bad.
- Master Yi- You're joking, right?
Now, here are my list of OP champions: If anyone wants to share thoughts or wants an explanation to the above, feel free to comment and give me some feedback.
Say what now?
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Say what now?
I am going to continue to remind you that this was completely based off of my experiences. I will agree that
Perhaps I should step back and look a bit more into competitive play before deciding who is OP and who isn't, instead of just basing it off of my experiences. Your points are very well portrayed, and I can only thank you guys for opening my eyes as to how certain champions are over powered.
That's why I like MobaFire. I get people like Xenasis who can openly take my choices, turn them on me, and make me rethink, and come to new conclusions as to what I think. So, thanks! :D
And ShiftyCake, I totally see your point.
In all honesty, this was kind of a "Counter/Rage-Blog" to a previous user (Who will remain nameless) who threw down LITERALLY 20 champions and called them all his "Mains". They consisted of
Put simply, not having main characters put you at a disadvantage versing more experienced players.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. By saying "people always claiming certain champs to be over powered", I simply meant that a lot of people are claiming that the same champions are over powered when they really aren't. (
Exactly why I found it humorous that you thought some champions were OP when, in fact, they really aren't.
It's like you're almost making a fool of yourself, in my eyes, and of course that amuses me.
You also recommend a Morello's Evil Tome on Kassadin, that's just silly. Blue buff + masteries makes CDR a non-issue for every caster in the game as they will waste large amounts of CDR (essentially wasting the most important part of that item when you get blue, which is over half of the time), and now, as a caster, you can simply get a DFG, which is bought for the active and not its stats.
Blinks don't make people overpowered, especially when they have really really high mana costs (to the extent that it might as well not have such a small cooldown).
As for Lee Sin -
Still strong but got hit in his most potent ability for his top lane prowess. Also incredibly, incredibly hard to play properly. Nobody complains Invoker is overpowered on DotA, for example. Good in the jungle but by no means overpowered, his strength is definitely his top lane right now.
Olaf -
Always been that strong. Nobody called him OP ~1 month ago. Funnily enough that ult change was, overall, a nerf when you take early game into account. Easily shut down due to the fact he's susceptible to ganks early game, and if you're ranged you will have no trouble with him whatsoever.
Shen -
Recently nerfed, doesn't bring much to a team fight. Split pushes exceptionally well, but for a team fight he has but a taunt, and that's basically it.
The fact that you use the not too good and never used in competitive play Kassadin over Veigar, who is used in competitive play and is, indeed, good, amuses me greatly, however, especially when you ridicule those who can't figure out who is OP and not. Kassadin is annoying, and in LoL, people sometimes see annoying as strong, you mentioned his blink, sure, why not. Nobody would care if Evelynn got a blink that was free with a 5s CD, it's annoying, yes, but it isn't the defining factor.
"A pet peeve of mine is people always claiming certain champs to be really over powered."
"Now, here are my list of OP champions:"
Bit of contradiction there?
It's funny because Veigar is stronger than, and sees more competitive use than Kassadin, too.
LoL is pretty much completely balanced right now.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. By saying "people always claiming certain champs to be over powered", I simply meant that a lot of people are claiming that the same champions are over powered when they really aren't. (
I actually hope you're joking at
No, I am absolutely not joking. He has a ~4 second blink and has an unmatched laning phase due to his
I think your definition of "maining" a champion is a bit off. If you take a player with 200 games and they've played 75 with one champion, I'd call that a main. If you take a player with 2500 games and they've played a champion 100 times, it probably isn't one of his mains.
Mains are the champions that a player plays best, has the most experience with, and knows the most about. Obviously you have to play the champion a lot in order to main them, but that doesn't mean X amount of games will qualify you as an expert on that champion.
I also agree with Xen. League of Legends is quite balanced. The slightly stronger champions get direct or indirect nerfs and unviable champions will slowly get reworked until they see more use. Twitch and Evelynn are still due for their stealth remake. Mundo and Kayle were both considered terrible picks until a few tweaks (along with some gutsy players willing to experiment) made them viable again. Shen's rework changed him from an uncommon pick to practically permabanned. I'd say anything that isn't balanced about LoL gets rectified pretty quickly.
You are totally correct. I would agree that my statement of maining a champion could be off if you were discussing someone who had ~2500 games.
Riot does do an amazing job with making sure the game is balanced, and I was simply just picking some of the champions I find to be a little outrageous in certain aspects. If you have the time, I would like to ask what you guys think about
Mains are the champions that a player plays best, has the most experience with, and knows the most about. Obviously you have to play the champion a lot in order to main them, but that doesn't mean X amount of games will qualify you as an expert on that champion.
I also agree with Xen. League of Legends is quite balanced. The slightly stronger champions get direct or indirect nerfs and unviable champions will slowly get reworked until they see more use. Twitch and Evelynn are still due for their stealth remake. Mundo and Kayle were both considered terrible picks until a few tweaks (along with some gutsy players willing to experiment) made them viable again. Shen's rework changed him from an uncommon pick to practically permabanned. I'd say anything that isn't balanced about LoL gets rectified pretty quickly.
"Now, here are my list of OP champions:"
Bit of contradiction there?
It's funny because Veigar is stronger than, and sees more competitive use than Kassadin, too.
LoL is pretty much completely balanced right now. I couldn't pick a champion and say "Wow, this guy is completely gamebreakingly OP" because nothing like that exists. Some champions are stronger than others, but no matter how hard you try, that's how it will stay unless everybody has the same skills and stats. Every champion (except Eve, Twitch and the likes) have their place in specific team comps, and all excel at different roles.