Darius, the Hand of Noxus, Revealed.

[quote=NicknameMy]That is actually the problem, you can't just reduce the base and increase the scaling. That is the problem with [[garen]]'s [[Judgment]].[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=cooper56] [quote=caucheka] [quote=NicknameMy] I think, this should show all people that [[garen]] needs a rework. [/quote] oh boy here we go. garen might need a few adjustments here and there but his kit is solid. [/quote] His real problem is scaling he is worse than renekton late game and that is saying something... i under stand there early game champs but even so they should do decent dmg late game. [/quote] How does he have bad late game scaling? He gets a free 25% armor penetration. With last whisper and the [[weapon expertise]], he's sitting at just under 60% armor pen. That doesn't seem like bad scaling to me. EDIT: His passive is a chase-down, his ult does true damage and can scale 1.5:1 His Q can also scale 1:1 with AD.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=cooper56] [quote=caucheka] [quote=NicknameMy] I think, this should show all people that [[garen]] needs a rework. [/quote] oh boy here we go. garen might need a few adjustments here and there but his kit is solid. [/quote] His real problem is scaling he is worse than renekton late game and that is saying something... i under stand there early game champs but even so they should do decent dmg late game. [/quote] How does he have bad late game scaling? He gets a free 25% armor penetration. With last whisper and the [[weapon expertise]], he's sitting at just under 60% armor pen. That doesn't seem like bad scaling to me. EDIT: His passive is a chase-down, his ult does true damage and can scale 1.5:1 His Q can also scale 1:1 with AD. [/quote] Epic Fail! He meaned that for [[garen]]...[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=Lugignaf] [quote=cooper56] [quote=caucheka] [quote=NicknameMy] I think, this should show all people that [[garen]] needs a rework. [/quote] oh boy here we go. garen might need a few adjustments here and there but his kit is solid. [/quote] His real problem is scaling he is worse than renekton late game and that is saying something... i under stand there early game champs but even so they should do decent dmg late game. [/quote] How does he have bad late game scaling? He gets a free 25% armor penetration. With last whisper and the [[weapon expertise]], he's sitting at just under 60% armor pen. That doesn't seem like bad scaling to me. EDIT: His passive is a chase-down, his ult does true damage and can scale 1.5:1 His Q can also scale 1:1 with AD. [/quote] %Pen scales multiplicatively so it's more like ~55% I believe. Still a lot.[/quote]

[quote=Warthun]He reminds me of Morde; Very offensive skillset with low CC (Except his W, but you have to basic attack.) But Morde has his ult, which gives him HP, while Darius has no sustain in his kit.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] [quote=Lugignaf] [quote=cooper56] [quote=caucheka] [quote=NicknameMy] I think, this should show all people that [[garen]] needs a rework. [/quote] oh boy here we go. garen might need a few adjustments here and there but his kit is solid. [/quote] His real problem is scaling he is worse than renekton late game and that is saying something... i under stand there early game champs but even so they should do decent dmg late game. [/quote] How does he have bad late game scaling? He gets a free 25% armor penetration. With last whisper and the [[weapon expertise]], he's sitting at just under 60% armor pen. That doesn't seem like bad scaling to me. EDIT: His passive is a chase-down, his ult does true damage and can scale 1.5:1 His Q can also scale 1:1 with AD. [/quote] %Pen scales multiplicatively so it's more like ~55% I believe. Still a lot. [/quote] 40%(Last whisper)+6%(Weapon expertise)+13.5%(His passive)=59.5%[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=NicknameMy] [quote=Lugignaf] [quote=cooper56] [quote=caucheka] [quote=NicknameMy] I think, this should show all people that [[garen]] needs a rework. [/quote] oh boy here we go. garen might need a few adjustments here and there but his kit is solid. [/quote] His real problem is scaling he is worse than renekton late game and that is saying something... i under stand there early game champs but even so they should do decent dmg late game. [/quote] How does he have bad late game scaling? He gets a free 25% armor penetration. With last whisper and the [[weapon expertise]], he's sitting at just under 60% armor pen. That doesn't seem like bad scaling to me. EDIT: His passive is a chase-down, his ult does true damage and can scale 1.5:1 His Q can also scale 1:1 with AD. [/quote] Epic Fail! He meaned that for [[garen]]... [/quote] This is a Darius thread. If someone mentions a champ and their lack of late game scaling, and it's in a thread for another champ, I'm going to assume we're talking about champ #1 instead of #2.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, but he quoted this one in his post: [quote] oh boy here we go. garen might need a few adjustments here and there but his kit is solid.[/quote][/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]you win by bleeding the crap out of your enemies with this champion.[/quote]