How to counter LB?

[quote=Totallynotn00b][quote=cooper56] [quote=Totallynotn00b] [quote=cooper56] [quote=Totallynotn00b] [quote=cooper56] Swain we won game any way BTW i did better late game and was tanky as shit and did massive dmg [/quote] E-q her anytime she tries to qw you. you need goodish reactions though. auto attack her after- due to your e, if she sticks around to retaliate AA's, she will lose the trades. If she's the type who just qw-> return immediately, never move the return point. AA her to death. how badly did you lose the lane? [/quote]Cant she would take down 2/4 hp in q if would died. [/quote] Don't get why you say can't. Think about it. In order to [icon=sigil of silence size=40] [icon=distortion size=40] you, due to the nature of [icon=distortion size=40] she has to jump on you. Since the silence only kicks in when [icon=distortion size=40] lands, you have all the time before that (i.e, when she's travelling) to [icon=torment size=40][icon=decrepify size=40] her, no? This is during 1-5, when undoubtedly swain should have the advantage. [/quote] No she w q then r then even if i land it shes back at her turret wtih her w to back out so q does not work . [/quote] Key part of what I said was that it was for 1-5. even if she w-q you, she's still putting herself into range for your retaliatory harass. Post six? Use your own ult to heal the damage she does. Literally. She makes a move onto you, turn It on, stay by the minions. Unless you've done something horribly stupid, she won't be able to kill you. Furthermore, starting without boots is pretty damn stupid vs Lb - A) if she started boots, she's now free to engage you as she sees fit, which ties into B) since she's definitely not the pushing type, you're now even more prone to ganks. Rushing the Athene's unholy grail may actually be a good move as swain vs lb. Haven't actually tested it yet though. Just to clarify, you were asking for help as Swain vs lb, as opposed to general counter lb tips?[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]3 Dorans rings into Mercury threads does wonders against her.[/quote]

[quote=koksei]pick lux and win.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=koksei] pick lux and win. [/quote] Love laning versus Lux's and Cassiopeias. They're so busy thinking their poke is OP they end up screwing up either due to overpushing, overextending or blatantly dying when the duel ensues.[/quote]

[quote=koksei]Assuming Lux got good poke made me stop reading[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]That's what most assume, taking clarity and spending 90% of their time worried on hitting me with their E. When I return from base fully healed they usually have the same CS as I do *shrugs*[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=PotatisFarfar] 3 Dorans rings into Mercury threads does wonders against her. [/quote] This. If you're one of these people who can't concept the idea of changing your build depending on the current situation - Galio, Nautilus, Warwick should work wonders against her, too[/quote]

[quote=koksei][quote=FalseoGod] That's what most assume, taking clarity and spending 90% of their time worried on hitting me with their E. When I return from base fully healed they usually have the same CS as I do *shrugs* [/quote] Aiming for an E takes about 0.02 seconds.. and who takes clarity on her o.O[/quote]