GOOD GUIDE

1: like i said, at level 6, damage output is probably less than 100 or 200 for nukes. the amount the ult reduces would only be around 10-40 per hit. on the other hand, feel free to build your own skill tree, im not forcing you to do it

2: there is an alternate build below

3: chalice is for early game, you should sell it later

4: repost?

5: "(not limited to)" again, there are other options, cleanse is just a general tank spell

personaly I do not like this guide.

The First Reason; I do not like this guide is because you do not upgrade your ult. If you are going to say it doesn't to enough damage at level 1, is because that's not what its meant for if you read it should be used for team fights to reduce incoming damage by 20% so that your carries can slaughter the team. I agree that the ult will do damage but you only pop it when the team fight is moving to a new location meaning it is not meant for team fights.

The Second Reason; I also see problems with the warmogs. You could easily buy a rod of ages for a little but of ability power since you are already buying an abyssal scepter.

The Third Reason; I cant understand why you would buy a chalice. it seems much better just to buy, as I said before a RoA. The rod of ages will give you mana meaning you wont need as much mana regen. I can see it still be viable to buy a sherilias revelry.

The Fourth Reason; Why are you buying a chalice? You don't need that much mana regen. You are getting the chalice to late for it to be of use. As Maokia I have found from personal experience you only need mana during the laning phase.

The Fifth Reason; Why are you getting clense? I can see that it could be usefull but then since you are already going tank you could just get a sash and get MR with it. If you replace Cleanse with something like Clarity (not limited to) you do not have a use for a chalice and it is more for the team as you are playing an off tank because you do not have initiation.

well at level one its only 100 damage (the time it takes to build up the extra damage is too long at early levels, especially when theres a lack of mp)
i'd rather have the extra aoe damage in sapling or anything else really

for the vote.

also, why not upgrade your ultimate at level 6? its such an important skill to have. i know it eats mana, but it gives you a very definate and clear edge in early/mid game team fights with that damage reduction for the entire team. also lays on a good bit of damage, just not 1v1. hit 1 person for 200Dmg= disappointment. hit 4 people for 200Dmg= dear god this is good.

It's not a text wall problem, It's just very difficult to read. space it out a bit more :)

abyssals for offensive i guess, but its a trade-off, usually his nukes are fine without the extra AP, im not much for AD either, he's too slow if you get tank stuff to deal any damage

agreed too many walss. and may i ask, why not offtank him rather than straight tank? he is excellent for suporting your team in any situation, not just support.