Heimer-> No Respect...

[quote=KERMIT1026]So, I am admittedly a newbie compared to many (only been playing LOL for about 10 months, off and on), but I believe I have a valid point to make to all those that continue to discriminate against heimer in ranked. Stop it. Admittedly, there are idiots who don't know how to properly AP support with heimer, but I am getting tired of having to convince every ranked game team I am on that we are going to do just fine with me as heimer mid or solo top, and the crappy heimers likely are not going to play as heimer in ranked so quit your bitchin. I regularly get the criticism that I should know how to play more than 2 positions, and that only being a master of one champ makes me a noob, but I take the opposite position that a jack of all trades is a master of none (thus, I dominate). Long stupid story made short... heimer played properly out-earns everyone else in the game, adds background damage and slow that enables the carries to dominate when playing properly, and when people on the other team underestimate a good heimer, he jacks them up. My favorite point in a game is watching the other team go from chasing me irrationally, to running from me like I might eat their babies. So please people, reconsider your irrational write-off of master heimer players... your team will be better for it.[/quote]

[quote=Dypheus]Purpose of this thread is yet unknown.[/quote]

[quote=animorte]A little conceited with your favourite champion, much? He isn't the best, but he is good. Questionably one of the best at defending a turret though. I just hate the way he sounds.[/quote]

[quote=Mikuroo]He actually is a bit underpowered that's why people are skeptical.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]I find him hillariously crappy, and I've seen him penta. Heimer global taunts me, that's for sure.[/quote]

[quote=Mazuran]Why will people rage? Because there are champions that are waaaaaaay better at those roles than Heimer. I blame his lack of mobility and crappy CC. Mid lane - Heimer just isn't as good as Swain, Ahri, Galio, LeBlanc etc. Support - Heimer's kit doesn't lend him to the support role particularly well imo, and compared to Janna, Taric or Leona he just looks really poor :/ Top Lane - Why the fuck would you take Heimer top lane when you have Udyr, Shen, Kennen, Vlad etc? He's not really that bad a champ, it's just that he pushes too hard in lane for the current playstyle, and he's just outshone in most roles by plenty of other characters.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian][quote=Mazuran] He's not really that bad a champ, it's just that he pushes too hard in lane for the current playstyle, and he's just outshone in most roles by plenty of other characters. [/quote] Pushing too hard is good, it allows for aggressive play and stealing jungle creeps, leading to an advantage, which is almost the same as getting insanely fed. And when you're insanely fed, it doesn't matter who you are, you will win games.[/quote]

[quote=animorte][quote=Mazuran] Top Lane - Why the fuck would you take Heimer top lane when you have Udyr, Shen, Kennen, Vlad etc? [/quote] Because he has a great blind and range that directly counters 90% of top champions... I thought that was obvious. He is not in the least underpowered. I have recently witnessed Heimers shit all over some people. Maybe you just haven't seen a good one or are not good with him...? His burst is massive and, if you are dumb enough to stay in range of his turrets, he has great sustained damage as well.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]true dat.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot][quote=tehAsian] [quote=Mazuran] He's not really that bad a champ, it's just that he pushes too hard in lane for the current playstyle, and he's just outshone in most roles by plenty of other characters. [/quote] Pushing too hard is good, it allows for aggressive play and stealing jungle creeps, leading to an advantage, which is almost the same as getting insanely fed. And when you're insanely fed, it doesn't matter who you are, you will win games. [/quote] Thing is, he can push from a safe distance like malz, so he isn't in that much of a danger.[/quote]