Using The Brutalizer with Last Whisper...

[quote=Ace Ventura]A milion people using those 2 in the same build. To all players out there who doesen't know, flat armor penetration ([[The Brutalizer]]) reduces effectiveness of % armor penetration ([[Last Whisper]]), because flat is aplied before %.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Yep. I've never been a fan of Youmuu's+Last Whisper - it's just overkill and Last Whisper ends up becoming less efficient. Stick with one or the other.[/quote]

[quote=Ace Ventura]Stick to the Brutalizer/Youmuu's always. Last Whisper is extremely situational and late game item. If situation calls for Last Whisper, then sell brutalizer/youmuu's.[/quote]

[quote=B-Wong][quote=Jebus McAzn] Yep. I've never been a fan of Youmuu's+Last Whisper - it's just overkill and Last Whisper ends up becoming less efficient. Stick with one or the other. [/quote][/quote]

[quote=Trojan995]I usually run either tons of flat ArPen (youmuus, SotD, cleaver...) or a last whisper. Going both just seems like such a waste, since that's all Last Whisper is really good for.[/quote]

[quote=PFP]I used to run it, and I then realized the defects of building it for Ashe. Only needed if you are playing people with 250+ armor.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Imagine that ppl could be missing ArP runes. Imho going Yoyo + LW is valid in those situations.[/quote]

[quote=Ace Ventura][quote=Trojan995] I usually run either tons of flat ArPen (youmuus, SotD, cleaver...) or a last whisper. Going both just seems like such a waste, since that's all Last Whisper is really good for. [/quote] The Black Cleaver is armor reduction and it is aplied before flat penetration and % penetration. Also it works good if there are few DPS in your team.[/quote]

[quote=ExamplePrime]What about a Youmuu's, Starks then Black Cleaver? After that whatever you need[/quote]

[quote=Ace Ventura]The Brutalizer/Youmuu's are same, penetration. Stark's Fervor and Cleaver are reduction and they can go bellow 0, while penetration can penetrate only what is there. As I said reduction aplies before penetration. So, reduction and penetration are not smart to combine in most of the cases.[/quote]