Karma Rework

[quote=Berzerk]Apparently Guinsoo is testing making Karmas mantra an ultimate that would essentially be like Renga's passive (it would make the next skill she used after she used mantra be an ultimate quality spell.) what do you guys think about this kind of change? As someone who's played over 300 games of Karma I kinda don't want to see her get changed but I know it will be for the best =[ [img=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XTP4yOzoy9w/UGp_mmTMl1I/AAAAAAAAHIg/FOfGwuUPJKg/s1600/gggoodguin.png] -From guinsoo twitter[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]he only said she doesnt have 2 charges...it could mean she has more charges or only one[/quote]

[quote=Berzerk]I didn't show further in the page, but he was saying it was going to be one "ultimate" mantra.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]well post the rest of the page?[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]AGREED[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Maybe instead of mana her resource system will be mantra and for that she gets an ultimate. And everytime she stacked an amount of mantra, one of her spells power will be increased, much like the ferocity system. Maybe her ult could be that she instantly gains the maximum amount of mantra together with something other.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher]Pointless speculation is...well, pointless, nicknamemy. I think what we should be discussing is Karma's power level in today's meta. I too have played hundreds of Karma games and honestly, why pick karma over morgana? morg has better laning, better presence, better teamfights, better roaming, better escapes, better everything. Even her black shield is 10X better than karma shield. Sure, a damage soak is nice, but i'd rather make my carry invincible to magic damage and cc for a while. What good is a shield if they can just get chain cc'd and exploded? Just increase karma's ratios, lower her mana costs, and bam, godly champion.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Karma's kit never appealed to me. The amount of utility she has is nice but in practice she falls flat compared to other champs. The issue though is they'll basically need strip her kit bare and start from scratch. Otherwise buffing her in her current state would make her op. Its due to her utility. But thats my oopinion.[/quote]

[quote=throatslasher][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Karma's kit never appealed to me. The amount of utility she has is nice but in practice she falls flat compared to other champs. The issue though is they'll basically need strip her kit bare and start from scratch. Otherwise buffing her in her current state would make her op. Its due to her utility. But thats my oopinion. [/quote] [IMG]http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/throatslasher/gwM5p.gif[/IMG] Even if you gave her buffs, she still wouldn't have mobility or hard cc. I'd hardly call that 'op' The problem with karma is that she's almost never more powerful than other typical mids, who get power bumps at 5, 6, 9, 11, etc. karma is just never very strong because her skills level to 6 but have the power of level 5 spells, which is horseshit.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]arnt karmas ratios already pretty high? also im still waiting for someone to post the rest of the twitter stuff[/quote]