Hybrid Penetration or Magic Penetration Runes...

[quote=MyLilRafalca]In the process of getting runes, and I have Armor Pen marks. But I was curious about two champions I have that I really like to play - [[Fizz]] and [[Rumble]]. Just curious whether it is better to get magic penetration marks for them, or if I should save to get hybrid penetration marks. Most guys seem to just recommend flat Magic penetration, which makes sense, but for both of em, autoattacking is somewhat important - Fizz obviously autoattacks with W alot, and Rumble does a good bit of damage I've noticed when I overheat. What do you think, should I just go ahead and get magic penetration marks? Or save up for the hybrid ones?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Get Magic pen. They may auto attack but a majority of their damage is still magical. Hybrid marks arent that great, save for some rare gem characters like [[Kayle]] or [[Jax]] who actually build hybrid at times. Hope this helps.[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]They can work on Rumble but it depends on the matchup, generally they'd only work against melee champs.[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]When you're in overheat mode with [[rumble]], the bonus damage on your autoattacks is magic damage. The bonus damage on your autoattacks with [[fizz]]'s W is also magic damage. They also have no Attack Speed steroid whatsoever so barely 5% of your damage output is physical damage, just like on any other mage used correctly (you should use autoattacks with other mages too). Get MPen yeah.[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru]Im not sure on RUmble and Fizz, but i disagree what OTG said, Hybrid Penetration is great for most of the Mid Caster's, u dont just use your spells to harass and u only lose a tiny bit of magic pen for like 9 Armor pen, doesnt mean everyone suits them, Karthus for example only harasses with his spells...but Annie or Ahri on the other Hand...[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I'd say that it would be better to just grab the full Mpen for the two of them. Fizz could do okay with hybrid pen, but you won't always be in the position to auto attack and really make that arpen worth the loss you'd be having in Mpen. Atm, i think that [[shyvana]] is the only really good person to have hybrid penetration on... maybe teemo...[/quote]

[quote=Wheew EUW]Hybrid pen is actually good on singed if u are skilled with him. Fling + Auto + Poison + Ignite can kill most top laners by suprise at level 2. Many teemo's have died to this :)[/quote]

[quote=Jo3HooDYo]I actually started using Hybrids on Annie only because of the harass she can do mid lane. Decent poke with your auto attack is nice because you dont have to get as close as you do with her Q. I only do this with her though because of her auto attack's mega range lol.[/quote]

[quote=GreenFrogs]The pros have said hybrid pen marks are actually more efficient on AP ranged casters because while you lose a bit of magic penetration, you are auto attacking a lot during the laning phase and even during skirmishes, which in turn makes them viable. On fizz, yes I would definitely get them. His damage comes from autos, and while the majority is magic, he still has to auto to get that damage out, which means hybrid is good. Rumble I'm a little less excited about, but I don't really play him. He doesn't auto as much as fizz, but I'd still consider it. I mean, if singed takes hybrid, which he's supposed to (high elo players are doing it), then I'm pretty sure it's acceptable on fizz and rumble.[/quote]