Karma's New Kit

[quote=DillButt64]http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/03/karmas-new-kit.html#more im sad they changed her passive but this one actually looks a lot better her mantra'd Q looks like an iceborn gauntlet type thing that explodes too, seems like it takes skill to use her new W is looking amazing because it deals DoT and then Roots and if you use mantra on it you get healed which looks amazing AND THEY KEPT THE KARMA SHIELD and made it a speed boosting shield, it looks like it would be great to mantra shield on the initiator and then everyone will have a speed boost too bad they took away her AoE heal, it looks like shes even less of a support now and a much better APC, hopefully her ratios are good enough[/quote]

[quote=cooper56]Shes gonna be a mid i guess or top alot dmg not enough utility for support. unless her ratios are shit.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]she has a root and an AoE slow and an AoE speed up and shield? she has some decent utility but i do think shes going to be mid, at least im still gonna play her mid[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]even if her ratios are shit she won't be a support. EDIT: and I'm glad she doesn't look like she'll be one. from what I've heard she's comparable to Ori or Morgana, aka high utility AP carries.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]They also said she has enough up front power and utility to support if you so desire. :3[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]i like this rework overall, only a couple things to grief about, mainly moving her heal from q to w and only having 1 mantra charge, don't like that.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]but the empowered abilities look a lot stronger and you can lower the cooldown of it with your passive, and if the mantra charge doesnt cost any mana then itll be really good and it seems like her mantra is like nids cougar form where you level up your mantra abilities but leveling up your mantra[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]Karma is back.[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]removed 6 ranks? good job riot. also, grats on removing her heal. healing is too toxic, it ruins games.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]the 6 ranks was terrible because at level 6 her skills were as strong as someone elses level 5 skill and they removed her heal because it wasnt even that good, if you built ap you could maybe do 10% of the MISSING health which is almost nothing, and if "healing is toxic and ruins games" they wouldnt have champions with healing spells like sona, soraka, janna, they wouldnt have spell vamp or life steal, and GUESS WHAT KARMA CAN STILL HEAL HERSELF IF SHE USES A MANTRA W why do you hate on riot every time they make a single change?[/quote]