Sejuani & Trundle (Revamps)

[quote=LaronX]They will be in a much better spot maybe even competitv viable depending on the Meta. [[Trundle]]: He is still as fast as he was in the jungle and strong as a counter jungler. Both his [[Rabid Bite]] and [[Contaminate]](Troll Smash and Frozen Domain are the new names I think) are still some of the most insane skills in the game ( no casttime AA reseter and no casttime steroid are really nice). His ganks don't really got better but he is still a great counter ganker. He probably do really well in poke comps and comps that need a strong disengage( protect the hyper carry). He scales much better into late game now and his ulti really can cripple a tank ( thake that Nasus) or finish of a squishe. [[Sejuani]]: I am not sure about her. While I can see Trundle be picked up fast she might take some time befor people pick her up. That said she is pretty strong. Both the changes to her Q ( riot seems to love kock ups now) W make her a much bigger threat all of the game. At the moment she really lacks power when her ulti is down but now with % health dmg and an early CC her ganks might be deadly ( level 3 gank witha knock up and a 50% slow sound painfull). On the other hand her ulti became a bit less no brainer but still strong when you hit it. She fills a nich between Mundo and high CC junglers which has the potential to be a very high contestet pick. But she is weak against counter jungling and can't do much if the enemy can out gank her. She has great objective with her % dmg .[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]OTG i agree with the change to sejuani's armor but im gonna just point something out notice how SR isnt in the icy snowy place, so her wearing a fur bikini actually makes some sense because shes used to the frozen tundra while fighting in the forest that is SR, the same logic could be applied to Ashe with her leggings/dress/skirt and tryn with his shirtlessness but anyways i think Sej's rework is going to make her strong as fuck, dealing % hp damage and her Q knocking up better, W having a higher base damage and she wont be at like 100 hp when she clears cuz of her passive so shes probably going to be the next champion i pick up also the pig in the traditional skin looks terrible i will never use it as for trundle i love the rework cuz ice<3 and it makes his ultimate a lot better, the only thing im going to miss is having max tenacity on him when i use W but I GUESS having the spirit visage effect while on W is good enough, ill still probably build spirit visage on him anyways for super regeneration[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex][[Sejuani]]'s issues are fully adressed in this rework. I still can't wait for it.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]From what I've heard she still gets her ass kicked a bit by creeps early on, but it it isn't damn enar suicidal like currently. [[Lee Sin]] will still own her ass at red.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]doesnt lee sin own almost everyones ass at red? but her base damage on W got higher to make up for the ratio being bonus hp instead of max hp so she should be clearing a bit faster[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Yea she's always cleared fine, that doesnt make her sustain not suck.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]well amumu doesnt have the best sustain in jungle due to the CC he brings so i think thats what they were trying to do to sejuani too, give her crappy sustain cuz her ganks give a lot of CC[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Amumu is actually deceptively hard to counter jungle. He clears pretty fast and the Damage reduction from tantrum is strong early game. Sejuani can get dicked over harder by being invaded than him. Even in her new state.[/quote]

[quote=HazmatxKilla]Anyone know when Patch 3.6 is coming out?[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]this is a huge patch so i wouldnt expect to to be here for a while, considering the damage the 3.5 patch did[/quote]