I see what Moon means: he wants each offense to have points given.
So in game 1, Jungle Karma who sold her items to switch from
Spirit of the Spectral Wraith to the Lizard elder, that'd be 3 points. In game 2 when the same player on Ezreal intentionally trolled and fed, that would be an additional 6 points, for a total of 9.
Moon says 8 for that night, but feeding is a 3 point offence, not 2.
I'd even throw in unpausing the other team's pauses (they had some people who were not connected, but he did unpause it twice immediately after it was initiated) at the start of game, add 1 more. Total of 10.
Shen intentionally fed and trolled, which gets him 6 points, plus 2 for ignoring host during team select. Total of 8.
Should this conversation continue in the point list thread? Or is it appropriate to leave here?
So in game 1, Jungle Karma who sold her items to switch from

Moon says 8 for that night, but feeding is a 3 point offence, not 2.
I'd even throw in unpausing the other team's pauses (they had some people who were not connected, but he did unpause it twice immediately after it was initiated) at the start of game, add 1 more. Total of 10.
Shen intentionally fed and trolled, which gets him 6 points, plus 2 for ignoring host during team select. Total of 8.
Should this conversation continue in the point list thread? Or is it appropriate to leave here?
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Let's continue it in the Point List thread.
As I said, the two and three points were given by Shuru, who I assume was hosting? Or was he informed of what happened by you and did he make his own mind up based on that?
I don't mind discussing this, but as I said, we trust our Referees to be able to assess the situation correctly. If you guys feel something went wrong, I'm going to need a bit more information on what went down, especially as it's hard for me to judge as a complete outsider.
How many points do the players deserve according to you and why (I know you've answered this Barb, this is more directed at Mooninites)? --> Edit: I didnt see he already explained his thoughts on this, nvm this question then.
More importantly, If the players were trolling heavily in game 1, why were they still allowed to play in game 2? Were they warned during the inhouses or only afterwards after repeating the same mistakes multiple times (Shuru mentioned in the Ref forums that he talked to them afterwards, but did anyone else do the same)? For example, when MrMukwubstep unpaused the first time, was he told not to do it again by the actual host and did he do it again after that despite the warning?
If you guys could clarify this for me (either in the other thread or by PMing me), I'll take a look at it and adjust the points given if necessary. I - in Mowen's absence - have the final say on this.
(please continue this discussion in the other thread. Any posts about it here will be removed.)
As I said, the two and three points were given by Shuru, who I assume was hosting? Or was he informed of what happened by you and did he make his own mind up based on that?
I don't mind discussing this, but as I said, we trust our Referees to be able to assess the situation correctly. If you guys feel something went wrong, I'm going to need a bit more information on what went down, especially as it's hard for me to judge as a complete outsider.
More importantly, If the players were trolling heavily in game 1, why were they still allowed to play in game 2? Were they warned during the inhouses or only afterwards after repeating the same mistakes multiple times (Shuru mentioned in the Ref forums that he talked to them afterwards, but did anyone else do the same)? For example, when MrMukwubstep unpaused the first time, was he told not to do it again by the actual host and did he do it again after that despite the warning?
If you guys could clarify this for me (either in the other thread or by PMing me), I'll take a look at it and adjust the points given if necessary. I - in Mowen's absence - have the final say on this.
(please continue this discussion in the other thread. Any posts about it here will be removed.)
nice commentary.
Main problem was obviously grouping. But you have no idea how hard it was to get Morgana, Cait, and Rengar in the same lane. They were pretty much always scattered.
As far as shen splitpush; shen can only splitpush if there's pressure on other lanes. Because none of our other carries were grouped, we couldn't send shen to split a lane. So it wasn't really his fault
Main problem was obviously grouping. But you have no idea how hard it was to get Morgana, Cait, and Rengar in the same lane. They were pretty much always scattered.
As far as shen splitpush; shen can only splitpush if there's pressure on other lanes. Because none of our other carries were grouped, we couldn't send shen to split a lane. So it wasn't really his fault

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I was always in lane harassing =P
most of the time... lol
the akali going onto me during baron was a bit weird.
that hook Xai finally got on me was kind of clutch witht he shen ult because I just Zonya'ed. Aye I felt so pro. (totally wasn't trying to get hooked though lol)
most of the time... lol
the akali going onto me during baron was a bit weird.
that hook Xai finally got on me was kind of clutch witht he shen ult because I just Zonya'ed. Aye I felt so pro. (totally wasn't trying to get hooked though lol)

yea the grouping thing was more of a team issue, there's no individual to blame for it, but it did allow blue an opportunity to get back into the game.
EvilDice wrote:
yea the grouping thing was more of a team issue, there's no individual to blame for it, but it did allow blue an opportunity to get back into the game.
I'd take the blame for it, I pretty much ignored half of Moon's calls (he was like our leader) and head to the jungle. Probably could have ended it at least 10 minutes earlier.

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