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AMA about how to get better (Diamond 1)

Creator: ShayanShine November 13, 2013 11:28am
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Yo whats up.

A few months back I did an AMA on the leagueoflegends forums that got a lot of views and 50+ pages of good information on how to improve (you can find that here http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3626805).

Now I'm doing one on mobafire because I'm sure there are a lot of you here that don't visit the league forums.

I'll answer any question about any role. Ask away.
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You're on mid lane, there's a decent amount of enemy minions on it, and you see your enemy mid laner go bot through a ward.

aside from warn them, wat do?
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What's up?

I'm winning lane as Olaf against Riven. I'm up 10 CS and 2-0. She starts roaming, mid is even, bot is losing not by much. I push for tower, get one down. Right now, I have Tiamat, Doran's Shield and Boots. Pushing is fast. I continue to push until I can no longer do it, or stop at the tier 2 tower and roam as well? What could be considered a fair trade?

I ask this because I frequently find myself in this situation and outcomes have varied. Usually, if the other laner roams but gets nothing or very little out of it, I stay pushing until someone tries to stop me and that's a huge win for my team. If they do accomplish something and I can't react in time, I feel I should have done something different.
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You're on mid lane, there's a decent amount of enemy minions on it, and you see your enemy mid laner go bot through a ward.

aside from warn them, wat do?

If it's a big wave that you cannot afford to miss, you use your spells to clear that wave as quickly as possible and decide between these two options:

A) Push lane to turret
B) Follow the enemy midlaner

Option A lets you dmg the turret and maybe even kill it if the enemy is gone for long enough, but your teammates will probably blame you if they die (this is okay, just ignore them).

Option B lets you show up late and maybe clean up if the enemies are low enough. However, this option is not always a possibility. If your waveclear isn't strong enough, then you won't be able to clear the minions quickly enough to show up in time to help botlane. But if you're playing a champion with good waveclear (Ahri, Gragas, Orianna) you can definitely go down and show up late to clean up.

In general though, if you notice your enemy starting to use their spells and autos to clear the wave quickly, chances are they want to roam. You should mimic them and clear your wave at the same time so you can follow them if they roam.

luizdeh wrote:

What's up?

I'm winning lane as Olaf against Riven. I'm up 10 CS and 2-0. She starts roaming, mid is even, bot is losing not by much. I push for tower, get one down. Right now, I have Tiamat, Doran's Shield and Boots. Pushing is fast. I continue to push until I can no longer do it, or stop at the tier 2 tower and roam as well? What could be considered a fair trade?

I ask this because I frequently find myself in this situation and outcomes have varied. Usually, if the other laner roams but gets nothing or very little out of it, I stay pushing until someone tries to stop me and that's a huge win for my team. If they do accomplish something and I can't react in time, I feel I should have done something different.
My recommendation would be to ward deep in the enemy jungle and keep pushing until you have their tier 2 turret down. Once you have the tier 2 down, you're free to do anything you want on the map. It's a huge loss for the enemy team. Make sure to warn your team that Riven is going to roam as soon as you destroy the tier 1 turret so they are prepared.

The reason I prefer to continue pushing is it lets me accrue a huge CS advantage and with big items you can carry the game with a lot of top laners.
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So I've recently been playing a lot of Dota 2. This has done wonders for my decision making, farming, and so on in League, but my overall mechanics such as kiting and skill shots have been hit or miss.

Sometimes I can land every skill shot in a single game (depending on type of skill shot), but then other times I miss everything, and I'm having a lot of trouble kiting.

My question is, how can I get back my ability to kite as quickly as possible? I used to be rather good at ADC but lately I find my ADC lacking because I simply cannot kite in a team fight. I feel like its my fault, even if I'm not getting peeled for.
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Shuru wrote:

So I've recently been playing a lot of Dota 2. This has done wonders for my decision making, farming, and so on in League, but my overall mechanics such as kiting and skill shots have been hit or miss.

Sometimes I can land every skill shot in a single game (depending on type of skill shot), but then other times I miss everything, and I'm having a lot of trouble kiting.

My question is, how can I get back my ability to kite as quickly as possible? I used to be rather good at ADC but lately I find my ADC lacking because I simply cannot kite in a team fight. I feel like its my fault, even if I'm not getting peeled for.
For mechanics things all I can say is it comes with practice. Repetition, repetition, repetition.

For skillshots I recommend trying to hold off on shooting your skillshot for a couple seconds, let the enemy try to "predict" it, then fire your skillshot. This usually increases your accuracy. Basically you want to try to aim for a second or two before actually firing it off.

For kiting its all really practice. Attack the enemy, click backwards, attack the enemy, click backwards. Over and over. Once you play enough games you'll get it in your muscle memory and wont have to even think about it.

Try going into a bot game and kiting everything. Even though they're just minions, the basic mechanic is the same. Do this for like 30 minutes a day and you'll be godlike at kiting.
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^okay, I've been doing it wrong all my live lol.
I usually do skillshots as fast as possible, giving enemys as less time as possible to think of scenarios to dodge/ counterplay.

But most of the time my skillshooting is connected with splitsecond decision making, thus I tend to miss alot, but otherwise I noticed that I hesitate way too long and end up missing most skillshots, any other tipps xD?
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xIchi wrote:

^okay, I've been doing it wrong all my live lol.
I usually do skillshots as fast as possible, giving enemys as less time as possible to think of scenarios to dodge/ counterplay.

But most of the time my skillshooting is connected with splitsecond decision making, thus I tend to miss alot, but otherwise I noticed that I hesitate way too long and end up missing most skillshots, any other tipps xD?

I used to do that, but after I started waiting and aiming before firing I found that I'm more accurate. Of course there are certain situations where I still shoot it as quick as possible but thats only when I know it'll land. My best tip is to aim your skillshots.
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here's more of a decision making thing, I get yelled at for this all the time...

a lane is beyond winning without your help, but helping that lane runs a bigger chance of feeding that lane, as a jungler, I tend not to gank lanes that are down 2 kills before I'm level 6, UNLESS they got ganked, and still have a decent farm. Now, the other day a tryndamere lost to another trynda and asked to get me reported for not helping. I ganked his lane early game, and the enemy trynda had like 50 HP so I dived, trynda decided to tank the turret and give a kill in the process. I got the kill and lived (would have whether he tanked or not) and then never ganked that lane again.

I did what I could for other lanes, and we still lost the game becuase our trynda kept fighting theirs, and eventually their trynda just pushed all the way in.

I could have helped his lane, but chances are at this point that with 3 kills down, he would just get more fed if I camped...

what do I do in this situation?
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