Lissandra diving

[quote=Thalia Kael]Can Lissandra follow-up an initiation into the enemy backline in teamfights along side a Jarvan and Shyvana by diving in with them/right after them? Is Lissandra made to only peel and do nothing else? Will Lissandra instantly die if she charges in with other teammates that have big initiations and gap closers? My answers : Yes and no and no Just want to finish an argument with someone[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]Assuming she has her core items like Hourglass.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I see Lissandras man mode iniating themselves with Zhonyas. I don't see why not. She just zhonyas if she gets focused, or ults herself. I rarely see them peeling.[/quote]

[quote=Azalea]She won't instantly die if she has Zhonyas. If she doesn't have that built yet, she can just EQWR and stay safe. She's a pretty safe champion with [[Glacial Path]] and [[Ring of Frost]].[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]- -what's the point of this[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=Embracing] - -what's the point of this [/quote] i said in mobachatthing that if youre looking for someone to dive and burst someone and get out lissandra isnt the best choice when zed, ahri, other assassins exist, so naturally thalia needed to make a thread asking questions that had nothing to do with what i said lol[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Liss should be peeling for your ADC after she initiates with her ult. Her ult is for initiating fights by using E to get in then ultimate herself for aoe cc or for locking down a carry. Only if you're fed should you actually look to start a fight by instagibbinh a squishy.[/quote]

[quote=Thalia Kael]I said she has the ability to dive in then you start saying that she should not be chosen and that I should try Kha'Zix. I say she can dive in, burst plus cc them with her team and you say no chose Kha'Zix and Syndra if you want to do that. Also when I say she CAN, it doesnt mean SHE SHOULD ONLY DO. By saying that you can dive, I'm not saying NEVER PEEL EVER ALL YOU SHOULD DO IS DIVE PEOPLE 1v5, which is pretty much what you seemed to be understanding last night. "Her ult is for initiating fights by using E to get in then ultimate herself for aoe cc or for locking down a carry." This is exactly what I was saying yesterday. large rant : [spoiler]and you were saying to never do this and to only peel and if you want to do this type of thing that I should play Lissandra or Kha'Zix. You told me that using E to get into the enemy team is bad and shouldn't be done. You and the other guy were telling me that she can only peel and thats the only thing she is made to do and if you try to do anything other than peel your adc that I should play Kha'Zix or Syndra because "they are better bursters". I gave up trying to talk to you guys because any time I tried to explain something I would be told that Kha'Zix and Syndra do it better. I say that they can't lockdown or CC like Lissandra can and you guys reply that Syndra will not only infiltrate the enemy backline, but also kill the ADC and stun the entire enemy team as long as she is not a bad player. You guys don't understand that I didn't say she is supposed to dive, kill someone and get out. I said that when you have a team like Vayne, Lissandra, J4, Shyvana and Leona that Lissandra can easily dive in alongside her team and lockdown people plus burst a squishy. Then you and/or the other guy tell me that J4 is a peeling champ not made for diving, just like Lissandra. Like after you guys said your nonsense I said that her E is used to dive in then she does her combo with her ult too and you guys say not to do that because she just instantly dies and doesn't get anything done. But obviously the person without any matches on Lissandra is an expert with her and knows better than me. And like every Lissandra player. Maybe I didn't explain properly or you guys just didn't understand properly. But read my first post. [u]Lissandra follow-up an initiation into the enemy backline in teamfights along side a Jarvan and Shyvana by diving in with them/right after them[/u]. This is the type of thing I was saying. I don't know where you got the impression that I think Lissandra should be played by getting in, killing someone then getting out. And yes I have to resort to this because you will not listen to anything and just keep saying nonsense otherwise. The argument yesterday was kind of like the time when you were telling me that I should never get into melee range while playing Diana or to jump into fights and whatnot.[/spoiler] tl;dr Lissandra is good at diving into enemy teams with her E and disrupt/lockdown them. When someone says that a champion is good at something, he doesn't mean that the champion can only do that. And no Syndra will not be stunning entire enemy teams and Kha'Zix does not lockdown people. You (Dillbitt64 and example13) have no idea how to play Lissandra and should stop giving people crappy "advice" in mobachat[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]lul i never said anything about syndra that was example, i didnt say anything about kha but he can get in burst and get out, lissandra can go in with E and ult but if people are still alive then she will most likely die because shes a squishie apc, pre-hourglass, i never said lissandra doesnt have lockdown or shouldnt -follow-up initiate- (you never said that in the chat lul) i also never said "ONLY PEEL NOTHING ELSE!!!" pls dont put words in my mouth, almost everything in this game is situational, sometimes youll want to peel as lissandra, sometimes youll dive with your initiator im fully aware kha cant lockdown but he can get in burst get out, as can zed, syndra may not be able to lockdown as well as lissandra (her stun does last a good duration) but she has much more single target burst than her pls stop taking things the wrong way and then making threads about them[/quote]