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Should 3rd Party Apps be Allowed?

Creator: Alan LaFleur April 25, 2014 8:28pm
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If you cannot add "x+6", you REALLY need to stop playing computer games and start solving some basic mental math problems. I say this out of sincere concern for your well-being. It will be beyond embarrassing in the long run when you cannot add what you should be able to from the age of 4. Feel offended if you want to, but it's saddening to see someone as numerically challenged as you. 10 mental math sums a day, you'll be tons better in a month.

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im pretty sure people can add x+6 but say youre contesting dragon and shortly after it goes down a big teamfight happens and someone made a mistake and lost the teamfight

you get a lot of back and forth fighting/raging/blaming and someone didnt actually manage to write the timer down, now if you want it you have to scroll through all that angry typing to get to the bold time stamp

that is the time consuming part of it, not the "DAHHH IDK WHAT 20 PLUS 6 IS"
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Adding "x+6" should come as naturally as breathing. Can't believe this is being contested. As soon as it dies, you should know when it will be up 1 micro-mini-nano second later, if not quicker.

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x + 6 = 0
x = -6

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I think the problem is predicting when a shen Ult will be up... Assuming shen is running 3.75% CDR And has not completed spirit visage yet. That can be alittle harderto calculate and remember... Certainly off the top of your head anyways
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I say this out of sincere concern for your well-being.


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sirell - Judgemental ****.

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There is a Shen in front of you. He's using his Shadow Dash. He types "#MLG get rekt nub". You hit tab while watching out for a gank. You see his items. While walking in to farm two caster minions you see a jungler coming from the river. You fall back, trying to remember the cdr of Spirit Visage. You dodge Lee Sin's Q. You remember, x cdr. You think back to when Shen last used his ult. That was when bot lane was having a two vs three. Graves and Leona were fighting against Caitlyn and Nami. When Shen teleported over Graves and Leona both lost their lives. You walk in to kill a caster minion and a siege minion. Yes, that must be y minutes ago, you remember while walking to the river to ward. Next, the cd of Stand United. Another few minions. z minutes.

While trading with Shen you do the calculations. y * (1 - z / 100) - y

1. It usually doesn't come down to x + 6.
2. There are many factors to deal with while calculating.
3. Not everyone has good connections between both brain halves(ability to extract the needed information from all the clutter in various forms).
4. Not everyone is good at head calculations and nobody can do it in <1ms

If you find it necessary to use Curse Voice it means you think you gain something by using it. However you look at it, it always comes down to that fact. And if other people in your game don't have the same environment as you the game becomes unfair.

And don't tell me it's because of the VOIP because half of the community doesn't even have it, and there are plenty of alternatives which don't affect the HUD.
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In case people didn't know, Riot Sir Dal has since lifted the ban on Curse Voice, since he wasn't informed with Riot Central's policy on Curse Voice.

http://beta.cursevoice.com/forums/beta-feedback/feedback-and-questions/2310-curse-voice-to-be-banned-in-lan-las
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The scenario you've described is so completely off-topic there is nothing to say. Everything you've said is right, that isn't "x+6"; but that's not even the point in contention. The only thing I was referring to was Drake/Baron timers. If you feel you need CV SPECIFICALLY for that, then yes - there is no hope for you.

It would be irrational to expect any individual to be simultaneously aware of EVERYONE'S cd timers. However, it does not excuse the inability to determine when Drake/Baron will spawn next.

Also, anything that is not inherently a part of the game, should remain out of it. I have no issues with recommendations being made to Riot, but unless they incorporate said recommendations, keep it out. If it's unfair for everyone, it's fair.

For those of you who have played Runescape - and specifically Dungeoneering - you'd know the debate surrounding DGS (Dungeonsweeper). This is pretty much the same thing. Game Developers do not like outsiders influencing their work. So don't do it. Or suffer the consequences.

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