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Them Troll voters

Creator: IxieSorrow February 21, 2011 6:56am
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I know there's section for trolling in reports, but is troll voting allowed? (doesn't feel like opening rule books and such) Since ninja downvotes were now prevents troll voting such as people posting things are just obviously stupid, and 1 letter comments so they can still downvote. On that bases of extreme obviousness we should (if not already) be allowed to see something done with them. Maybe a warning then progressive IP bans so they can't troll vote on ANY accounts they may have access to on the website. Now i believe that your IP only allows you to vote once, but maybe check their IP and figure out what accounts they've accessed and monitor those ones or something... idk, but there's some really nice builds that begin new like them all that can easily be troll voted and forgotten. Some do get through and shine out amazingly, but some of the downvote comments are just rediculously dumb...

Is there anything we can do about them in particular?
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No, not really. You can only get them removed if they're using multiple accounts to vote.

Here's the actual thread about the admin's feelings on "troll voting":

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/mobafire-support/i-have-found-troll-votes-on-the-site-can-i-get-them-deleted-1976
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Yeah i read and i do understand that but there is some cases where i believe that it at least needs to be a bit more specific. The point of enabling a comment is to actually have someone comment in a negative or positive manner. Some people can comment and troll vote sure, but there should be more limiting for that or something. If we enable comments, i want to see a ******* comment on my build. Rather it be *This guide is a peice of trash* or something of that manner, i would prefer to see something like that on an indepth guide rather than a letter, something that has no relation to the build, or that liking.

In situations like the ones i just mentioned i think a rule set where people must as least make a comment that is RELATED TO THE GUIDE. Rather it be on a karma guide saying *Karma is a horrible champion -1* or not. at least it would be somewhat related then..
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Meh, trolls will be trolls.

For EX:

I just got a minus one on my Nid guide that said

wishr wrote:


ap build cant be usefull.



But... it's an AP nidalee guide, and almost everyone plays AP Nid. I r confused T-T

Another EX:

A old one on my Twitch guide,


lubie plackixDD

I translated it. It means "I like Pancakes too"

But in all seriousness, after a while, you'll get over it, :P. To be honest, I can a million downvotes but as long as theres still someone around that needs help, I'll still be here : P

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Xaioli wrote:

Meh, trolls will be trolls.

For EX:

I just got a minus one on my Nid guide that said



But... it's an AP nidalee guide, and almost everyone plays AP Nid. I r confused T-T

Another EX:

A old one on my Twitch guide,


I translated it. It means "I like Pancakes too"

But in all seriousness, after a while, you'll get over it, :P. To be honest, I can a million downvotes but as long as theres still someone around that needs help, I'll still be here : P


Yeah i've been reading the higher guides like yours and that Udyr guide and have been seeing some of the comments being let slip by... There should be SOME restriction to it is what i'm trying to say.. Like i have a lux guide where 2 of the downvotes were (considering the main idea of the build is to be able to destroy people who get alot of MR) that my build didn't have enough MR (i have void staff and abyssal in mentionables, and haunting guise + sorc boots in the main build) and the letter *q*.

I can understand *not enough AP* but when it goes COMPLETELY against what you're trying to do, such as you making an AP Nidalee guide and someone saying that a champion who can easily be built in either way cannot be built one way effectively. That's like saying Fiddlesticks is useless because he can't gain back hp using drain. (notice how that makes NO sense at all)

All i'm trying to say is that there should be SOME restriction to it so at least we can get better feedback from downvoters if they do downvote, and maybe even better feedback from people who upvote.

Either way i'm with you. Downvotes and Upvotes don't truley matter in the long run, but that doesn't give it an excuse to be overlooked.
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I'm tired of explaining this again.

A troll vote, no matter how bad the reasoning, still reflects the opinion of that one member. Even if they're doing it just to troll, it still means that they dislike the build. We can't censor that opinion.

Say you're a news reporter and you interview 100 people about their opinion on Obama. You have 2 people say that they hate him just because they want to, and they don't give any rationale. Maybe their rationale is "I like pancakes". Does that interviewer have the right to cut those two votes out of the tally?

Like it or not, there will be people who troll your guides. And like it or not, they haven't done anything to break the rules. We can't change the rules just for the purpose of censoring those trolls, as they are still a part of both the MOBAFire and the LoL community.

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