Braum Consensus

[quote=Ninja Trigger][quote=utopus] I find that the problem with braum is that he really doesn't do that much damage. I'd definitely like to see the bonus damage on concussive blows get increased though. I think those deserve to be higher - or at least have some sort of scaling to them! [/quote] Braum is already really tanky, so I have been using Magic Pen Marks. So far it's really giving him a strong poke with his Q without really taking away from his ability to tank, also if the damage from concussive blows was increased Braum supports would be getting a lot more champion kills I just think his Q should do a little bit more damage and scale a little bit better[/quote]

[quote=Dransco]It's not that Braum is overly powerful, his mana costs just dont justify the damage he can put out. He can sit in lane forever and basically be a meat shield or an aggressive CC shield. Either way, he is too safe right now. Pretty much every game he is banned.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]he also has nauts passive on steroids[/quote]

[quote=TreyDobe][quote=Ninja Trigger] [quote=utopus] I find that the problem with braum is that he really doesn't do that much damage. I'd definitely like to see the bonus damage on concussive blows get increased though. I think those deserve to be higher - or at least have some sort of scaling to them! [/quote] Braum is already really tanky, so I have been using Magic Pen Marks. So far it's really giving him a strong poke with his Q without really taking away from his ability to tank, also if the damage from concussive blows was increased Braum supports would be getting a lot more champion kills I just think his Q should do a little bit more damage and scale a little bit better [/quote] Who ever proc's his passive if it deals the killing blow gets the kill so if it had increased damage it wouldn't mean he'd be ks'ing the adc, just means people who can proc the passive easier will get a lot more kills. I haven't played him much at all on Summoner's Rift so I haven't had a chance to really try him as support but he does have pretty good damage with magic pen or hybrid pen runes as I've been trying him exclusively in Twisted Treeline.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]You guys are missing the point of [[braum]]. He doesn't need to deal more damage. He's designed to redirect damage to himself and soak it up. Think of it in simple maths; ADC + Normal support damage = 2 ADC + Braum damage = 1.5 Enemy support and ADC damage divided by Braum = 1 1.5 > 1, which means you should win trades if you correctly soaked up the damages. :3 This is quite possibly the dumbest post I will ever make.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]-[[Braum]] synergies and has kill potential with: [[ezreal]] + [[lucian]]. Rest of the lanes are decent or "I hope I don't fall behind in cs too much" lanes. -[[Braum]] gets rekt by [[karma]] + [[zyra]] -Good against [[leona]], [[thresh]]. Anything depending on 1 ability locking ADC pretty much. -Worse than [[taric]] in most aspects in lane unless played with Ez or Luc but [[braum]] is much better in team fights. Rush locket/Randuins after Face of the mountain and sightstone.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I really disagree with the whole "not as good as taric in lane" bit.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]He seems pretty damn broken to me, although it's a little hard to tell since he's almost permabanned. His passive is huge damage when it gets triggered as well as giving good CC, his Q is good poke, causes a lot of threat because of the passive stack and has a massive slow to allow you to proc it, his E is absolutely insane (40% damage reduction for 4 seconds on potentially your entire team, what the hell?) and his ult is also crazy amounts of CC. He pretty much has everything you'd want in a support - lots of all in damage, tons of CC and even decent poke. I'm pretty sure he's also one of the tankiest champions in the entire game when he activates W and E. It's very difficult to win a 2v2 all in against him, especially if he's paired with something like [[Lucian]] or [[Ezreal]]. If he's with Lucian you can pretty much just bend over and kiss your ass goodbye if you end up fighting them, their passive synergy is way too good. Like Joxuu said, your best bet is to pick a bunch of waveclear + poke and just avoid getting into fights unless you get really far ahead.[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][quote=Luther3000] I'm pretty sure he's also one of the tankiest champions in the entire game when he activates W and E. [/quote] He is. It's pretty bonkers.[/quote]

[quote=TreyDobe][quote=OTGBionicArm] [quote=Luther3000] I'm pretty sure he's also one of the tankiest champions in the entire game when he activates W and E. [/quote] He is. It's pretty bonkers. [/quote] And I thought Leona was crazy tanky when she activates her W lol, gotta love Braum[/quote]