Vynertje wrote:
He's still somewhat vulnerable but his potential damage output with his E (contaminate if I'm not mistaken) is extremely high.
Wow, i just read his abilities, i didn't know his passive stacked with his E.
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Kalaaver wrote:
I don't think Miss Fortune should win lane against either of those two (though of course the support pick influences this heavily as well). A good Caitlyn will abuse the range advantage she has in that matchup, Lucian should win trades with his passive as long as he avoids being hit by the second hit of Double Up. That's not to say she can't win those lanes, but I wouldn't give her the advantage.
Kalaaver wrote:
The assasins point i don't get, almost every adc is trash vs assasins with the exception of Lucian and i suppose Twitch.
Jinx doesn't have an escape/dash, whereas - just to name a few examples - Lucian has his E, Corki his W, Caitlyn her E, Ezreal his E and Twitch his Q, as you mentioned (though the stealth still has a delay). That obviously doesn't make all those champs better than Jinx, but it is why she is generally considered weaker vs assassins/tanky bruisers that jump on her.
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Wayne3100 wrote:
I don't think Miss Fortune should win lane against either of those two (though of course the support pick influences this heavily as well). A good Caitlyn will abuse the range advantage she has in that matchup, Lucian should win trades with his passive as long as he avoids being hit by the second hit of Double Up. That's not to say she can't win those lanes, but I wouldn't give her the advantage
I actually think Miss Fortune is probably stronger in lane than Lucian
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Hmm.. I have to admit it's been a while since I've seen a Miss Fortune, so that might be true. She's definitely strong in lane, but a Piercing Light + passive proc for Lucian is generally pretty hard to trade with.
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Miss Fortune is such a strong lane bully, i still believe she is stronger then Lucian.
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I think Jinx and Miss Fortune both don't have reliable escape and kite mechanisms. And Miss Fortune's ult requires her to remain in place. So I wouldn't put them in tier 1.
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Kalaaver wrote:
I thought his early game was weak? I have not played Twitch since his update, did they change is damage? (I never played him that much before.)
His early game has been pretty strong for a while now. As for Jinx, she is too immobile and gets wrecked by bruisers and assassins. Miss Fortune is strong in lane but IMO it ends there unless you have Amumu/J4.
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