Braum Consensus

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Well, let's be fair. It's kinda justified because he's a literal martyr character.[/quote]

[quote=Ninja Trigger][quote=OTGBionicArm] Well, let's be fair. It's kinda justified because he's a literal martyr character. [/quote] Supports have always been the walking shield of the team it was only a mater of time before riot would actually make a walking shield as Champion. I have died more times then I can count as [[Braum]]getting the enemy team to chase me while my team pushes objectives.[/quote]

[quote=Uuskilu]I have to say I see tons of ppl building Sunfire Cape on Braum and I just don't agree with it. You aren't submersed in their team you shouldn't all in and you shouldn't be doing 1v1s too often, I find that other items are just better suited. I use my normal 0/9/21 support masteries and I think he goes well with ADCs that have on-hit proc effects such as Twitch and Vayne since he can keep them in range longer for more damage. He does worst against high poke and cc comps for me. I typically build face of the mountain, frozen heart, ruby sightstone, ninja tabi/merc treads, and tank items based on enemy team comp. I love the Q scaling with healt because I can start doing significantly more damage in lane before recalling and later in game I can do chunks of squishies health.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]sunfire is fine because two of his abilities scale with both of the stats it gives (three if you want to count E) and the passive is good even if you arnt always in range of it because if you think about it youre going to be peeling for your ADC and the enemy jax/renek/whatever is going to hopefully be on the other side of you[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Sunfire range is also a lot bigger than people generally think it is. You don't have to be dry humping them.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Getting a SFC means that braum will actually do damage as a support, and he cannot be merely ignored in team fights as well[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites][quote=utopus] Getting a SFC means that braum will actually do damage as a support, and he cannot be merely ignored in team fights as well [/quote] You know you're just bringin the deeps with [[Sunfire Cape]]. Better focus braum as soon as he gets this item[/quote]

[quote=FantasySniper][quote=OTGBionicArm] Sunfire range is also a lot bigger than people generally think it is. You don't have to be dry humping them. [/quote] You could be within chasing distance, which is usually where you are if you're peeling, and it offers tons of "gerr-off" capability when someone wants to go ham-mode.[/quote]

[quote=Out Of Pancakes]How does a sunfire capes deals damage in mid-late game teamfights ? It's barely noticeable, even more against those tanks that are diving your carries. I've only seen "sunfire cape" in my death recap in very very rare/trolly situations.[/quote]

[quote=TreyDobe][quote=idmb22] IMO Braum needs a tweak on his numbers, his passive and Q does a lot of damage for what they are suppose to be and his W is too strong, like Leona's old W. In addition, before 6, it is hard to beat unless you have a lot of poke. After 6, he can easily dive and get out without problems, which I find it absurd compared to when Leona used to be able to do that. Another thing that I find quite out of place is the fact that he does not only can cover his entire team with his E and reduce the damage he receives, which is fine, but also block all projectiles. I think that having the ability to block and reduce damage is too much for a single skill, no matter he needs to orientate correctly. It feels unfair when fighting him because he can miss-play and use E to go back. Of course he will lose the trade and probable be forced out of lane, but it is frustrating not being able to finish him for his mistakes because of E. Regarding Braum's W. Actually, I have seen some Braum use it as an initiation tool: jump to a minion near an enemy, AA + Q + AA. If his ADC has a brain will just need an AA to proc Braums passive to get a probably free kill unless the enemy champion has a lot of mobility or durability. Meanwhile, Braum charges (he is suppose to defend not attack) and gets a lot of bonus stats for just W a minion. In my opinion the bonus should be less for W a minion and not a Champion. I don't think he is OP or top tier by far, but his numbers could be tonned down a bit. Not being top tier or OP is not an excuse for Riot to release Champions with high numbers. [/quote] I do think he is a bit stronger than I thought he'd be but I don't really believe he needs a hard nerf or anything, also his W can be used on himself to gain the bonuses so he doesn't need a minion or champion to activate it.[/quote]