I suggest you change the name to "I spent the last 2 weeks just spinning" :p

Hello call me Bob and i'm new to Moba Burn lel

I must make an account to vote and fav this guide

Well i'm from Vietnam so i play in Vietnam server but i don't know what it called.

This guide is very good i use it in ranking game and because of it i quickly jump from Silver 1 to Gold 5

I beated a lot of top laner, even some make me have to "Hug" tower and wait for someone to gank.

So this guild help me a lot and i want to share it to the people in my country, but i just wonder that can we just make a guild but copy mostly everything from the original guild and just translate them?

i will wait for the answer :>

First garen game after this guide
17/2/11

I run Garen frequently. this is a very simple guide to understanding Garen. good set up! hope to see more for your other champs!

Well, 1x Null-Magic Mantle and 3x potions isn't availible to buy, even 1 as the Mantle cost 450 gold and potion 35

I like the build very much, and only saying that you need to update the items because of the patch 5.16 with the Titanic Hydra and Sterak's Gage

Why you keep getting the guide "updated" while the guide isn't updated at all?

Im a new player and have been using this guide. My question is should I still purchase brutalizer now that it will not build into black cleaver? Is the new black cleaver still worth purchasing? Thanks for the great guide.

This really helped. I do agree with everyone on the fact that it's nice and simple. Although with the current metas and such it would really help if you updated the lane matchups were expanded on. Also, if you could explain how AP Garen help with any skill besides maybe his ult. Thanks.

With patch 5.12, we need to decide whether to go Adaptive Armor or Enchanted Armor , or both, at the cost of either Hardiness (leading to Reinforced Armor ) or Resistance (leading to Evasive ). However don't forget to pick Tenacious again.

Enchanted Armor is more effective on Standard Garen (I prefer :) build than Adaptive Armor , as shown below.


For Enchanted and Adaptive to be equally effective, this equation has to be true. I suppose bonus Armor (Ar) is always higher on Garen than bonus Magic Resist (Mr): With Standard Garen build, Ar/Mr is 115/80 = 1,44 on lvl18.

If Ar/Mr < 1,6666 (i.e. they are closer together than if "="), Adaptive Armor is less useful.
If Ar/Mr > 1,6666 (i.e. they are further apart than if "="), Adaptive Armor is more useful.

You can use this rule for any champion, just put in the numbers for Ar and Mr (on lvl18 for example) and compare. If Mr is larger than Ar, replace Ar/Mr by Mr/Ar and compare to 1,6666 as shown above. Note again that Ar and Mr are bonus stats.


So you only go for Adaptive Armor if you have 4/4 on Enchanted Armor .


Second question is whether we want Hardiness (with Reinforced Armor ) and Resistance (with Evasive ), or if we can sacrifice one for more Enchanted Armor , which scales far better with our tanky build. If so, I would sacrifice Evasive because it makes only 4% dmg reduction, as much as approx. 4 points of Ar and 4 Mr would (Correct me if I'm wrong).

However, Adaptive Armor is more effective than Resistance as soon as you reach lvl6. So you should
either max Resistance and take Evasive , putting 2/4 in Enchanted Armor and 0/1 in Adaptive Armor
or put only 1/3 in Resistance and go for Enchanted Armor 4/4 and Adaptive Armor 1/1.


Enchanted Armor >(always)> Adaptive Armor >(from lvl6)> Resistance (but needed for Evasive )

This guide is amazing. I just went 37-9 in a game and this was only my second PvP match. I went to kill a dragon single-handedly and was knocked down to only HALF health. An Annie came in to take advantage of the situation and summoned in her bear, and I shut both of them down. A really amazing guide that helped even a noob like me carry the team. #Atlas