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Items aside, your guide is largely lacking in numerous areas. It has practically no coding, which makes it look unappealing and dull. You also don't list alternative items for certain situations, who counters Garen, how best to use his abilities, etc. I think that 'Afish123' pretty much covers all the parts that need to be improved.

Nice build, +1

I don't argue with everything you've put in the cheat sheet (Although the starting items I had to think about for a little bit, just 'cuz it's so unorthodox XD), but the guide itself... I'm sorry, but I have a few expectations on what a guide should be, and I'd like to lay them out for you:

1) After I read a guide, I want to feel like I understand the character inside and out. I want to know the character's best combos, I want to know who they have a tough time against, I want to know what makes these champions unique and what makes them tick. Without going through such little things like what the abilities do, how they're best put to use, etc., I don't get that feeling. Even I've seen Garen's who use his ult when their foe is at full health, and not letting them know that it's weakest like that is somewhat of a letdown.

2) I like to read stuff that looks nice, not paragraphs that I could mistake for the homework my Government teacher assigned me to read. I'm not saying it's a make-or-break kinda thing, but it simply looks like you put no real effort into making your guide when it's all paragraphs (unless it's a TON of paragraphs, then it just looks like you think about it way too much).

3) I didn't see you back up your item choices, your pick of masteries, or anything on the cheat sheet anywhere in your guide. Yeah, you're a high-elo author, so that in and of itself shows that you know something about the game and how to play it. So why can't I see that same understanding in the words you've written in this guide? In the end, it just makes it harder to trust what you're recommending when I can't see the reasoning behind it.

I'm not saying the cheat sheet is hands-down terrible, but I'm saying that the rest of the guide isn't very well done. And I don't think that guides should be judged on only a single part of the entire guide.

DarkAkumaLord never downvoted you, neither did SRSAirbag, or a number of Jayce guide authors you downvoted. You can quickly scramble to delete the votes if you like, and I won't *** myself to go screenshot all of them before you do, but you know you did it, and so do they. A lot of the people who "troll" voted you weren't trolls, your guides are just ****ty and worthy of downvotes. Downvoting terrible guides is by no means "trolling". There's a BIG difference between a downvote and a trollvote, you should learn the difference before you start making accusations.

And really? "Please Upvote my Guide" isn't begging? Lmao okay.

Yes but like i said, those people that i troll voted, had troll voted me, therefore why would i change it, and im not begging, im asking theres a difference and you should learn it, please stop acting like you know everything about the site. Theres a problem with your kind of people you only see the small picture, the one that is straight in front of you, but you dont go and check on those guides that i down voted, why they downvote my guide, so please, stop bringing your ******** here to my guide, and down voting me because i troll voted on people who clearly troll voted me to start with. I know i dont bring down guides to get mine up, cause if you go and check on the 72% garen guide, the one above mine, you will see that i gave him constructive critiscm, he changed it, and i changed my vote to an upvote, he is now above me in garen guides, does that mean im going to change my vote on him because of it? NO, because he has a good guide, and didnt troll vote me. So please learn the facts before you come around here, in my guide, talking ****, when you really dont know anything about wwhat goes around here, around my place. Go back to your own guides, critize people there

Here's some proof, seeing as he's going around sporadically commenting on guides begging for upvotes (also against site rules) and these will soon be gone, These are just some of MANY btw:

I BETTER not get revenge downvoted for this seeing as you did that to everyone who has downvoted you so far. Just a warning. Anyways, I'm downvoting for a couple of reasons. First off, you have troll-voted a ton of Garen and Jayce guides for VERY well-thought out reasons such as "wtf" and "items dnt work" (check his history) and all in a petty attempt to raise your own terrible guides up the list. Just so you know, this is breaking site rules and is quite possibly a ban worthy offense. Also though, your guide is just terrible; absolutely no coding and it looks like absolute ****. Build is semi-mediocre at best.

As I said before, if my guide's ratings go down after this, I will make you pay. Not only will I report you for all your troll-votes, I will contact EVERY person I know or have come in contact with on this site and get them to "take a look" at your guide, and I promise you your guides will be sitting at around 23% by the time I'm done. Keep in mind though, if I see you have gone back and changed your vote on some of those guides you downvoted for no reason, then I will consider deleting this vote since I'm in such a good mood. Your welcome.

One last thing, why the HELL is this listed as a "Featured High Elo Guide" when he's Bronze IV? Just a glitch or what?

Thank you, your actually the first person whose given me advice on my guide, I'll try to take your advice as much as possible to make you change your mind about my guide(:

with this i even win lane against teemo