Force of Nature - does not exsist in s3

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I try your build and it really works well. In teamfights I last longer than usual builds. Update it. when you have a new idea for alistar thx and more power.

I'm a beginner, and this guide gave me a good couple of things to think about. I like how you carefully weighed each item's pros and cons. Thanks for taking your time to write this!

Your moral objection is unfounded. I said that I play Alistar and Leona in bottom lane; I mentioned that supports are similar to tanks;. If you read it through you would have realized that I was basically saying the same thing that you have. The difference comes in which items they buy and how they act in teamfights (with the latter influencing the former).

Anyway, I changed the reference to pure tanks, that was a mistake. I also removed the off-tanks definition. Frankly its not that important, its just meant to give context to the actual content.

My definition of tanks comes mainly from their role in teamfights. They initiate, survive the first round of burst damage, do AoE damage, CC, shield/buff/heal, and in general hold the front line so the damage dealers can secure kills. That is what separates Galio from Blitzcrank and Alistar from Taric.

The differences between off-tanks, tanks, supports etc is fluid. It usually comes down to a champion straddling the line between two groups (or not being able to be defined well at all). Our definitions of supports and tanks are different. I look at them in teamfights; you look at them in the laning phase. It doesn't make either one of us wrong.

I'm going to go ahead and -1 this because it shows a lack of understanding, with several things explained wrongly eg:

1. the definition of offtank - "Off-Tanks, on the other hand, will focus on tanking one single enemy, usually the carry"

2. listing Galio as a pure tank - a very serious mistake! He is an AP offtank, and most commonly played mid.

3. last and most importantly, the differentiation between tank and support, which I have a moral objection against. Tank is not a role which is separate from support. Tank supports include Alistar, Blitzcrank, Leona and Taric.

I added a section to explain the purpose of this guide thanks to throatslashers comment. Going into detail about theorycrafting would be overkill given that most guides don't apply a basic amount of reasoning into the value of most items.

I also added a section giving an example of how I would explain my Alistar item build. I explain how the items synergise with Alistar and when to buy those items.

I can't explain when to actually buy items on every champ (it differs on each). What I was trying to accomplish is to explain how an item synergises in general so that people could apply that reasoning to their favorite tank.

Thanks for the feedback :)

Nice guide,it explains the choices of items very good :)

This is ok, no grounbreaking info and no in-depths analysis, but this is OK. I'd like to see you talk about diminishing returns, when to actually BUY the items, etc.