Soooo....

[quote=RCIX][list] [*] I've asked all the review shops I can find to look at my guide (got reviews from a couple, rest are awol) [*] I've archived/unarchived my guide to put it back on the new guides list [*] I've been updating my guide as I have time [/list] And i still only have a few votes and minimal views. Wat do? The only other forum I regularly visit is the official LoL forums and they'd run me out of town on a rail for so much as mentioning mobafire (some stupid nonsense about "all their guides suck"). (would say which guide it is but then i'd get OMGWTFBBQ ITS ADVERTISING *lock*)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Minimal votes and or views potentially because the guides are lacking in substance/quality?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]They look good they're just for slightly underplayed champs. :P Link the guides to your friends. Whore the link after matches that you do well in. Just get the link to people other than on MOBAFire.[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17]If your guide is good, the right people will find it, and then they will hassle you for weeks about stuff that you should do and why your items are kinda wrong but not quite and so on and so on... Just my experience, though. I can give a look at them as well as some general info, but I'm not saying all that here. Just keep working at making it better, and it'll get to the top. I can vouch for that. :)[/quote]

[quote=RCIX][quote=DuffTime] Minimal votes and or views potentially because the guides are lacking in substance/quality? [/quote] Several times longer than yours, and completely filled with information relevant to the champ itself... I keed, I keed, but it does seem like your guides are a little light on content/formatting now and then. Time to go chat bomb the league of legends channels ;)[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Substance and Quality aren't terms used to describe the depth of the guide in this instance, but rather the item pathing and whatnot.[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]Well, if you put it that way, yes I recommended an item or two that isn't necessarily popular. At least, in one of my guides. I kind of expect people will read my guide for my reasoning and not go "omg lol that item is sooo noob *downvote*"....[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17][quote=RCIX] I kind of expect people will read my guide for my reasoning and not go "omg lol that item is sooo noob *downvote*".... [/quote] This is funny. :D Of course people will downvote just by looking at your items at the top of the page without reading your guide. Fun fact: lots of people are dumb/don't give a shit about you. People will absolutely downvote a guide because they don't like an item choice. People will downvote because you didn't show all three potions if you start with boots and 3 pots. People will even downvote you because your guide isn't the top rated guide. Not everyone does this, but some will. I say this because it's happened to me before. It's just something you have to live with.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I mean, I looked at your guides a while ago, the last time you tried to bring attention to them, and simply didn't vote, because to be honest it didn't matter to me. But as you continue to draw attention, I'm just going to be honest and open and tell you I think neither guide is exceptional. I'd be more likely to downvote than upvote if my attention is going to continually be drawn back to these guides, mostly because, the item paths aren't very great. People probably aren't voting because well, there's still something left to be desired. I'm only telling you this because it's the second time I've noticed you trying to get attention drawn to these guides.[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17]^ This is also pretty true for me as well and for mostly the same reasons.[/quote]