Click to open network menu
Join or Log In
Mobafire logo

Join the leading League of Legends community. Create and share Champion Guides and Builds.

Create an MFN Account






Or

's Forum Avatar

Post your Game Stats here

Creator: iGotHacks January 30, 2011 5:25am
XeresAce
<Member>
XeresAce's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
2171
Joined:
Nov 18th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 4, 2015 9:44am | Report
I don't get how janna is more team reliant than support lulu, nami, braum, leona etc... They're all cc/ward bots with relatively low damage and tankyness lest they build for it specifically, which kinda defeats the purpose of supporting. I understand zyra, annie, karma, vel' koz and even Nautilus being less team reliant because they are an actual damage threat to the enemy team, but the others? nah
Thanks to Koksei for the sig!
Toshabi
<Veteran>
Toshabi's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
5946
Joined:
Jan 18th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 4, 2015 9:53am | Report
Janna gives good blowies with that Q though.
jhoijhoi wrote:

Also, I think the levels of immorality in this thread are astounding. You'd really throw a child off a boat for your own luggage? Wow.





The_Nameless_Bard
<Ancient Member>
The_Nameless_Bard's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
12983
Joined:
Jan 17th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 4, 2015 9:58am | Report
Lulu is a bit of an intermediary there imo. Her damage isn't as high as, say, Karma's, but it's higher than the damage of the other champions you listed her with by a fair margin.

Also, Nami is far worse off than Janna atm. She doesn't have the level of purely disruptive disengage that Janna does in a team fight and everything about her is pretty lackluster late game as far as damage goes. She, imo, essentially feels like a worse version of Janna late game, while being more oppressive during the laning phase. She's probably MORE team reliant and even harder to carry with because her team fight CC is not really comparable to Monsoon as far as completely decimating an enemy team's positioning, instead she has a knock-up/slow combo and an AoE stun (which simply does not have the same effect). This is not to say I don't like Nami (I do), I just don't think she's any better off than Janna is as far as being team reliant goes.
XeresAce
<Member>
XeresAce's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
2171
Joined:
Nov 18th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 4, 2015 10:17am | Report
^ Yeah, lulu has alright damage if you build some ap on her (Say nomnicon) but when I play her I usually need to devote 100% to peeling which means only utility items and wards xD
Vynertje
<Guide Critic>
Vynertje's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
6381
Joined:
Jan 10th, 2012
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 4, 2015 10:24am | Report
XeresAce wrote:
I don't get how janna is more team reliant than support lulu, nami, braum, leona etc... They're all cc/ward bots with relatively low damage and tankyness lest they build for it specifically, which kinda defeats the purpose of supporting. I understand zyra, annie, karma, vel' koz and even Nautilus being less team reliant because they are an actual damage threat to the enemy team, but the others? nah


Janna relies a lot more on her ADC in lane to make plays, and has virtually 0 engage whereas others do have potential to set up stuff themselves.
XeresAce
<Member>
XeresAce's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
2171
Joined:
Nov 18th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 4, 2015 10:43am | Report
Vynertje wrote:


Janna relies a lot more on her ADC in lane to make plays, and has virtually 0 engage whereas others do have potential to set up stuff themselves.


From what I've experienced, you make plays with Janna by forcing a passive lane and capitalizing on enemy mistakes since if you just chill they eventually fall into the trap that they have to make a play no matter how inappropriate the timing is :P

Also, flash + ult is a pretty good way to get someone out of position so technically Janna can somewhat engage xD
Vynertje
<Guide Critic>
Vynertje's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
6381
Joined:
Jan 10th, 2012
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 5, 2015 4:48am | Report
XeresAce wrote:


From what I've experienced, you make plays with Janna by forcing a passive lane and capitalizing on enemy mistakes since if you just chill they eventually fall into the trap that they have to make a play no matter how inappropriate the timing is :P

Also, flash + ult is a pretty good way to get someone out of position so technically Janna can somewhat engage xD


Flash ults on janna are about the stupidest thing you can do in 99% of the situations as an engage tool lol. I know its a joke but generally it's only good as a reactive play rather than pro-active.

With regards to Janna's playstyle, you can play her VERY aggressively but you need your ADC to initiate trades while you cannot do that yourself because you need the shield on your ADC. Constantly forcing those quick trades is super effective but requires your ADC to work along. That's why she's more team reliant.
Vapora Dark
<Perfectionist>
Vapora Dark's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
10482
Joined:
Oct 16th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 5, 2015 11:08am | Report
The enemy team's names would be cool if they were actually playing the right positions. :|

Thalia Kael
<Inhouse Addict>
Thalia Kael's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
2895
Joined:
Dec 5th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 5, 2015 1:38pm | Report


When Keanu is down 1-5 in his placements and he calls for help
Thanks to FatelBlade, JEFFY40HANDS, Nyoike, TheNamelessBard, GrandmasterD, aviseras and koksei for the awesome signatures
Maintained
<Stalker>
Maintained's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
1102
Joined:
Dec 8th, 2013
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep May 5, 2015 1:48pm | Report
Keanu gonna end up in Pulse's division at this rate l0l

Special thanks to Jovy for the signature! Check out her shop

You need to log in before commenting.

League of Legends Champions:

Teamfight Tactics Guide