This is going to turn into a never-ending flame-war if you don't stop *****ing me out Dkiller, I said he was OP.
But due to your ignorance (<- stating facts here, unlike you), you failed to acknowledge that I was trying to figure WHY and HOW he was OP! Read from Page.5
He is OP, we both agree on that. And after research and testing, I found him to be OP to the bone. Happy?
That's my conclution. However, the patches did no buff him and the rest of your arguements failed horribly in my eyes.
This will be my last message on this subject, please leave with some dignaty.
* Mordekaiser is OP to the bone. Final, <- I just wanted to know how and why.
* The patches did not buff, they nerfed him a little, but not enough.
PS: refraining from flaming you is the hardest thing i've ever done, I had more facepalms than comments.
But due to your ignorance (<- stating facts here, unlike you), you failed to acknowledge that I was trying to figure WHY and HOW he was OP! Read from Page.5
He is OP, we both agree on that. And after research and testing, I found him to be OP to the bone. Happy?
That's my conclution. However, the patches did no buff him and the rest of your arguements failed horribly in my eyes.
This will be my last message on this subject, please leave with some dignaty.
* Mordekaiser is OP to the bone. Final, <- I just wanted to know how and why.
* The patches did not buff, they nerfed him a little, but not enough.
PS: refraining from flaming you is the hardest thing i've ever done, I had more facepalms than comments.

Scrax wrote:
/discussion closed. Let's end it here guys :).
Why? At least i feel this is a good chance to accualy talk about something.
Dont want to participate, move along, we are friends (at least i hope so Alahric :P) but i like harsh language and offensive style of conversation.
We are talking alot of nerfing and boosting.
Its not what they nerfed or boosted, its the amount of balance between income/outcome.
I think he is just too bulky still dishing out great amount of constant damage.
If they inted to make it more dps'ish than they should get the bulkiness part away, if they want to make him a bit more tanky, than reduce his dps capabilities.
There are better and **** champions for early game. Morde is superior early game, but compared to many champions (i think devs are doing it not on purpouse) stays superior through whole game ,thx to enormous farming capabilities. If we take Yi, he is medicore early game, usualy cant farm that easily coz he gets harrased much coz of his squishyness, his mid game is ****py if not fed (becouse we cant consider fed champ a good example) coz of teamfights that can get you stunned exhausted bla bla bla, and he shines late game, like most carries.
If we take poppy, she is imho medicore early game (coz of mana issues) she is SUPERIOR on mid game while supportish/tanky/dps on late game.
Morde stays the same all the time. You cant kill him early game you cant kill him mid game, and in late game you have to ignore him coz he is too tanky anyway and you have bigger threats there behind him (CC, carries) All that summarised gives him huge advantage on the lvling and gold income. That is my look on the issue here. To counter him, i can agree with you Alahric you could do it but you need those ganks going on like you said "cant get him solo set up a gank for him". That is totaly true but on the sidenote, when you have competitive players they will notice the MIA, and just chill out for a bit. Also ganking morde will give other carries or assasins a free card for getting fed.
Other thing are the costs. I have no idea why morde even has cost on his spells.
My choice would be % based cost. He is way more bulky than Vlad. Ofc he doesnt have that health regen, that is why the % costs should be lower than on Vlad but still i think that his spells should cost alot more. He gets shield so you can comare it to transfusion that costs health but replenishes health.
DEWO wrote:
Dont want to participate, move along, we are friends (at least i hope so Alahric :P) but i like harsh language and offensive style of conversation.
We are talking alot of nerfing and boosting.
Its not what they nerfed or boosted, its the amount of balance between income/outcome.
B-Wong wrote:
unless we agree on something we won't get anywhere -_-
Preacherman wrote:
Don�´t forget the most important thing.....it�´s only a game!!!
Besides, I wanted clarifications, afterall he is one of my mains that I've been playing since releash.
On a last note, just because he is OP doesn't mean he will win the game every time, he just has a huge advantage over most other champions.

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