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Just wondering, some people have incredibly great ideas by combining the best of each champions to create devastating damage output during teamfights.

My point is, have you ever thought about going in to a pre-made and then have your friends and yourself pick champions whose ability kit compliments another ?

Think of an AoE team consisting of champions like Galio, Sona, Amumu, Morgana and Miss Fortune. All the champions mentioned have AoE ultimates with inbuilt hard cc such as taunt, stuns, snares, you name it.

If that's the case, how come we don't see ranked gamers doing that ?

I can understand that perhaps a complete AoE team is not viable due to bans in ranked and bottoms tiers and what not. But what are the other reasons why people generally don't go for this idea ?

Imagine a team of supports either, have two or three adapt the role of tanks, ap and ad carry, and they can still support each other side-by-side. 5 supports, all with buffs and heals.

My question is, why haven't we seen any teams do that, regardless of whether they're in ranked or public games. And why do some people call it a troll ?

I've always imagined what a team of champions with cc ability can do during a clash, even if you say that the enemies are smart enough to stack MR or Armor, I believe that by the time everyone unleashes their AoE, the enemy team would be thinking about how to run and live to fight another day rather than just continue the clash till they all die off.

Your opinions, people ?
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Because
1) in solo queue it's hard to find champs who carry extremely well with these comps.
2) Most ranked players will NOT play every single champ to a proficient level.
3) Solo queue people don't give a ****
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This team doesn't have a lot of power behind it. If yyou don't protect Miss Fortune well enough, your team will lose out on many team fights. Instead of Galio Try someone Like Riven or Fiora and instead of Morgana I think Katarina, Ahri, Cassiopeia or Brand would be better
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Kazega wrote:

This team doesn't have a lot of power behind it. If yyou don't protect Miss Fortune well enough, your team will lose out on many team fights. Instead of Galio Try someone Like Riven or Fiora and instead of Morgana I think Katarina, Annie or Brand would be better since Amumuu is already keeping the teeam still with his ult


Personally, I think Amumu, Galio and Sona is a must, for the stun and the taunt so that the rest of the other champions whose ultimate do not have any cc can fully maximize their damage output, such as Brand's.

So you already have 3 roles taken, a jungler, a tank and a support.
What is left is your AP Carry and AD carry.

I see an endless possibility to an AoE team.
A Fiddlesticks, A Karthus or maybe Ahri, although her ultimate releases AoE damage momentarily.
The real problem is here an AD carry. The only AD carries I know who have AoE ultimates are Fiora and Miss Fortune, unless you count Corki OR Graves in as well
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For an AoE team to work out, you need power, not just CC. You have 3 CCs and not a lot of power which will set this team up for failure. Sona and AMumu are enough CC on their own
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Darius + aoe comp

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If you have galio and amumu, run nunu as a support straight AP. THen run kennen in top lane, and brand in mid. As long as you can have 3 seconds total stun/taunt time, amumu can get his ult out, and the rest of the lols will insue.

And i have done **** like this with friends. Problem is, the enemy team KNOWS that if all 5 o them get caught, its GG, so they dont tend to cluster enough for that team comp to be effective.
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Blood26 wrote:

Just wondering, some people have incredibly great ideas by combining the best of each champions to create devastating damage output during teamfights.

My point is, have you ever thought about going in to a pre-made and then have your friends and yourself pick champions whose ability kit compliments another ?

Think of an AoE team consisting of champions like Galio, Sona, Amumu, Morgana and Miss Fortune. All the champions mentioned have AoE ultimates with inbuilt hard cc such as taunt, stuns, snares, you name it.

If that's the case, how come we don't see ranked gamers doing that ?

I can understand that perhaps a complete AoE team is not viable due to bans in ranked and bottoms tiers and what not. But what are the other reasons why people generally don't go for this idea ?

Imagine a team of supports either, have two or three adapt the role of tanks, ap and ad carry, and they can still support each other side-by-side. 5 supports, all with buffs and heals.

My question is, why haven't we seen any teams do that, regardless of whether they're in ranked or public games. And why do some people call it a troll ?

I've always imagined what a team of champions with cc ability can do during a clash, even if you say that the enemies are smart enough to stack MR or Armor, I believe that by the time everyone unleashes their AoE, the enemy team would be thinking about how to run and live to fight another day rather than just continue the clash till they all die off.

Your opinions, people ?


The team comp you just gave will lose more matches than it'll win, either normal or ranked, for very obvious reasons:

1- No consistant sustained damage (except Miss Fortune who tends to be focused and killed first anyway). You can only burst down, you will do heavy damage during that burst, but that will set 4 of your team on an average cooldown of 4 seconds. During those 4 seconds if the enemy team survives the burst you will die so fast you won't realize it's over.

2- Even if you try to not overlap the CC (Space out the CC spells between teammates for maximum effectivness), an average enemy team will go for Mercury's Treads, the AP Carry will most likely have Zhonya's Hourglass and the AD Carry would run with Cleanse/ Quicksilver Sash and a Guardian Angel of course. When the enemy team's damage dealers survive that CC burst, you will die for sure.

3- You obviously didn't think of how the enemy team will comp their team...let's just say that I can win your team without even using counters: Olaf, Irelia, Kennen, Graves and Alistar for example.

TL,DR: you will suicide if you use that team comp.
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Because
1) in solo queue it's hard to find champs who carry extremely well with these comps.
2) Most ranked players will NOT play every single champ to a proficient level.
3) Solo queue people don't give a ****

well stated.
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I once lost to a team where each champ ran at least a snare/stun (or a situational one, their carry). It was something completely absurd, they basically turned the tide because they could choose to pick one of us and just destroy the team slowly. It was as followed:

Riven top. I beat her as Rumble, but she was hardly needed throughout the game
Veigar mid. He had some trouble too.
Amumu jungle. He was the key cc, he didn't even need to care about landing his Q on any of us as long as there was a minion about that he could grab and use as an ulti support. Veigar would immediately follow up that stun.
Taric support. He was key to lane phase, his Shurelya's Reverie allowed Amumu or Veigar to initiate impressively fast and his stun was another in an already decent train of stuns.
Vayne as carry. Tristana would probably have done it as well. They could disrupt us hard and fast, and Vayne's ulti would allow her to get out of the frying pan.

It was hell. I've faced AoE comp and I can tell you this was a lot more scary.
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