Mobafire League of Legends Build Guides Mobafire League of Legends Build Guides
's Forum Avatar

Zoning question

Creator: RCIX
April 9, 2012 3:18pm
11 posts page 1 of 2 Forums » General Discussion » Zoning question
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by RCIX » April 9, 2012 3:18pm | Report
Let's say I am zoning someone out so they can't CS. At this point, even last hits are pushing the lane slowly. Wat do? Just ward and hightail it out if I see someone coming? Am I supposed to be playing "how low can creeps go" on my lasthitting?
Nasus says hi
RCIX's Forum Avatar

RCIX
<Member>
Posts: 274
Joined: Jan 18th, 2012
Rep: Unremarkable (7)
Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » April 9, 2012 3:29pm | Report
I don't understand. Perhaps you're not properly manipulating the minion waves.
Learn the true S3 op, Tryndamere!
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-season-3-hamdamere-296968
Best Aatrox in The world, with a Video Guide!
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-336706
Like my official DuffTime Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/DuffTime
Follow me on Twitter, @RealDuffTime
Come hang out when I'm streaming! http://www.twitch.tv/dufftime
DuffTime's Forum Avatar

Awards Showcase
Show more awards
DuffTime
<Member>
Posts: 12302
Joined: Oct 31st, 2010
Rep: Renowned (670)
Blog   |   Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by omagma » April 9, 2012 3:32pm | Report
Yes, yes and yes.
Thanks to me and Elleeeeeka (love that name) for my sigs.
If i made a helpful comment on your guide/build, then hit that +rep button. or don't, its not like i care.
ALL HAIL QUEEN CHRYSALIS!
omagma's Forum Avatar

Awards Showcase
Show more awards
omagma
<Scout>
Posts: 1677
Joined: Jul 27th, 2011
Rep: Prominent (175)
Blog   |   Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by RCIX » April 9, 2012 3:36pm | Report
Uhh... Manipulating minion wave?

I zone enemy > Hes not CSing > I am > means my creeps get a slight advantage with each last hit

Examples perhaps?
Nasus says hi
RCIX's Forum Avatar

RCIX
<Member>
Posts: 274
Joined: Jan 18th, 2012
Rep: Unremarkable (7)
Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » April 9, 2012 4:27pm | Report
If you can properly freeze a lane, there will never be a counter push. His minions will always outnumber yours in such a manner that the wave will forever push towards you.

Sometimes to accomplish this eternal natural push, you have to drop a few CS to let it happen.
Learn the true S3 op, Tryndamere!
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-season-3-hamdamere-296968
Best Aatrox in The world, with a Video Guide!
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-336706
Like my official DuffTime Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/DuffTime
Follow me on Twitter, @RealDuffTime
Come hang out when I'm streaming! http://www.twitch.tv/dufftime
DuffTime's Forum Avatar

Awards Showcase
Show more awards
DuffTime
<Member>
Posts: 12302
Joined: Oct 31st, 2010
Rep: Renowned (670)
Blog   |   Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by JEFFY40HANDS » April 9, 2012 5:23pm | Report
what duff said
JEFFY40HANDS's Forum Avatar

Awards Showcase
Show more awards
JEFFY40HANDS
<Altruistic Artist>
Posts: 9270
Joined: Aug 10th, 2010
Rep: Esteemed (412)
Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by RCIX » April 9, 2012 6:36pm | Report
Anyone have video examples? I understand what makes a lane snowball one way or the other but seeing a video of what exactly i'm supposed to do would help :P
Nasus says hi
RCIX's Forum Avatar

RCIX
<Member>
Posts: 274
Joined: Jan 18th, 2012
Rep: Unremarkable (7)
Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Babit » April 9, 2012 6:49pm | Report
Last hitting in the end is putting extra damage out on the creep wave. Even if you let a lane stay empty and just creep push, eventually one tower will go down. In the end, there is no way to never have your lane push.

When zoning an enemy it works through their creeps killing your creeps while they are out of range, effectively denying them the gold/xp. The only trick I can offer is this: When you know that you have the ability to zone an enemy try to do it when their creep wave can push your own creep wave to your tower with your last hits. When you do this it maximizes the time before your opponent can safely get in range to last hit/get xp.

Once the wave is almost to the point of taking tower shots try your hardest to freeze the lane by judging how much damage from you will equalize the creep push.

Eventually the lane will push back, but by this time you should be able to shop and take advantage of the unanswered gold gain.

Doing this does leave you pretty open to ganks as you will normally be behind the enemy creep wave so make sure your warded/can escape a gank if you need too.

Babit's Forum Avatar

Awards Showcase
Show more awards
Babit
<Member>
Posts: 507
Joined: Jul 11th, 2011
Rep: Unremarkable (12)
Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DuffTime » April 10, 2012 10:09am | Report
RCIX, try going into a lane, at level 1, and don't last hit the first wave. You can start last hitting at the second wave, but be careful, your opponent will have a full level up on you.
Learn the true S3 op, Tryndamere!
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-season-3-hamdamere-296968
Best Aatrox in The world, with a Video Guide!
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-336706
Like my official DuffTime Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/DuffTime
Follow me on Twitter, @RealDuffTime
Come hang out when I'm streaming! http://www.twitch.tv/dufftime
DuffTime's Forum Avatar

Awards Showcase
Show more awards
DuffTime
<Member>
Posts: 12302
Joined: Oct 31st, 2010
Rep: Renowned (670)
Blog   |   Profile
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Crows foot » April 10, 2012 11:17pm | Report
DuffTime wrote:

RCIX, try going into a lane, at level 1, and don't last hit the first wave. You can start last hitting at the second wave, but be careful, your opponent will have a full level up on you.


Not true! If the opponent only last hits your minions will kill a few of yours and you will stay close enough to get that exp even if you don't get the gold.
If you for some reason want to follow my ranked journey to gold, you can do it Here.

I am against asking for rep, only rep me if you think I contributed well or said something wise.
Crows foot's Forum Avatar

Crows foot
<Member>
Posts: 1969
Joined: Jun 11th, 2011
Rep: Notable (37)
Profile

Quick Reply:

Guest commenting is currently disabled, please log in or sign up to respond!