Zoning question

[quote=RCIX]Let's say I am zoning someone out so they can't CS. At this point, even last hits are pushing the lane slowly. Wat do? Just ward and hightail it out if I see someone coming? Am I supposed to be playing "how low can creeps go" on my lasthitting?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]I don't understand. Perhaps you're not properly manipulating the minion waves.[/quote]

[quote=omagma]Yes, yes and yes.[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]Uhh... Manipulating minion wave? I zone enemy > Hes not CSing > I am > means my creeps get a slight advantage with each last hit Examples perhaps?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]If you can properly freeze a lane, there will never be a counter push. His minions will always outnumber yours in such a manner that the wave will forever push towards you. Sometimes to accomplish this eternal natural push, you have to drop a few CS to let it happen.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]what duff said[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]Anyone have video examples? I understand what makes a lane snowball one way or the other but seeing a video of what exactly i'm supposed to do would help :P[/quote]

[quote=Babit]Last hitting in the end is putting extra damage out on the creep wave. Even if you let a lane stay empty and just creep push, eventually one tower will go down. In the end, there is no way to never have your lane push. When zoning an enemy it works through their creeps killing your creeps while they are out of range, effectively denying them the gold/xp. The only trick I can offer is this: When you know that you have the ability to zone an enemy try to do it when their creep wave can push your own creep wave to your tower with your last hits. When you do this it maximizes the time before your opponent can safely get in range to last hit/get xp. Once the wave is almost to the point of taking tower shots try your hardest to freeze the lane by judging how much damage from you will equalize the creep push. Eventually the lane will push back, but by this time you should be able to shop and take advantage of the unanswered gold gain. Doing this does leave you pretty open to ganks as you will normally be behind the enemy creep wave so make sure your warded/can escape a gank if you need too.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]RCIX, try going into a lane, at level 1, and don't last hit the first wave. You can start last hitting at the second wave, but be careful, your opponent will have a full level up on you.[/quote]

[quote=Crows foot][quote=DuffTime] RCIX, try going into a lane, at level 1, and don't last hit the first wave. You can start last hitting at the second wave, but be careful, your opponent will have a full level up on you. [/quote] Not true! If the opponent only last hits your minions will kill a few of yours and you will stay close enough to get that exp even if you don't get the gold.[/quote]