Help with Farming!

[quote=Vitigam]How to do you farm effeciently? I am not talking about last-hitting, but how do you at least get 150 CS by the 20:00 Minute Mark. I watch a lot of streams, and by 20, they are at least at 150 CS. Me, I can't get myself over 100. This is probably cause I am forced out of my lane and in to team fights way too soon. Is this the case as well in high elo gaming or not? If so, how do you guys manage to get high farm and be there for team fights as well? Thanks Vitigam[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]MMM, not really... High ELO is about harassment WHILE you farm. And sorry to say it, last hitting IS what gets you high CS. But in the Low ELO, people mostly just like killing other players alot. Which isnt necessarily the same as winning. I have epically won games on Mord with a score of 5/1/6 (or something of that nature) and it was a no contest fight all the way through. If you want to get high CS you are going to have to learn to last hit effectively with champs you play alot. Also, in high Elo, there are 3 people that need to worry about last hitting. Solo top, Mid, and AD Carry Bot (at least in current meta). If you arent one of those people, don't stress about it. If you want to be an AD carry, your support will make it easier on you by healing the pokes you take so you can focus on farming. I would say not to try to get really high CS at low ELO... if you try the other team will see your lack of offensive action as weakness, and will attempt to roll over you, which will force you to fight back, which will devolve into nonsensical brawling, which means you are gonna die or have to B, which means you dont get CS anyway. Not to say that you shouldn't try. Just make sure you poke the other team while you last hit, so they don't get too comfortable and just try to steamroll over you. And as far as the teamfights, they DO tend to happen way too early in low ELO. Just a fact of life, and something you are going to have to work around. In those instances, ALWAYS be on the lookout for high concentrations of creeps in open lanes, and run over and take advantage of them whenever possible. And dont be afraid to invade enemy team jungle and take their shit. Good cash and EXP. Hope this helps![/quote]

[quote=Vitigam][quote=The Overmyynd] MMM, not really... High ELO is about harassment WHILE you farm. And sorry to say it, last hitting IS what gets you high CS. But in the Low ELO, people mostly just like killing other players alot. Which isnt necessarily the same as winning. I have epically won games on Mord with a score of 5/1/6 (or something of that nature) and it was a no contest fight all the way through. If you want to get high CS you are going to have to learn to last hit effectively with champs you play alot. Also, in high Elo, there are 3 people that need to worry about last hitting. Solo top, Mid, and AD Carry Bot (at least in current meta). If you arent one of those people, don't stress about it. If you want to be an AD carry, your support will make it easier on you by healing the pokes you take so you can focus on farming. I would say not to try to get really high CS at low ELO... if you try the other team will see your lack of offensive action as weakness, and will attempt to roll over you, which will force you to fight back, which will devolve into nonsensical brawling, which means you are gonna die or have to B, which means you dont get CS anyway. Not to say that you shouldn't try. Just make sure you poke the other team while you last hit, so they don't get too comfortable and just try to steamroll over you. And as far as the teamfights, they DO tend to happen way too early in low ELO. Just a fact of life, and something you are going to have to work around. In those instances, ALWAYS be on the lookout for high concentrations of creeps in open lanes, and run over and take advantage of them whenever possible. And dont be afraid to invade enemy team jungle and take their shit. Good cash and EXP. Hope this helps! [/quote] Thanks, the greatest problem I have is trying to harrass and farm at the same time. In tournament play, as far as I have seen, there aren't more than 10-15 Kills in a game. Right now in the elo I am in, all they want is kills. I'd rather farm and maybe get 1-2 kills in lane. But, all they do is force teamfights in less than 10 mins, which puts me behind in farming. Thanks for hte help.[/quote]

[quote=The Overmyynd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxGQ3gWdrM Watch this video. Get a friend to watch this video. Practice in Custom. Go into a 5v5 together as Ez and Blitzcrank lane partners. Win. Thats all there is to it. In low ELO this lane combo using the understanding that this video gives you is just like shoving a syringe full of GodMode into your arm and pushing the plunger till your eyes are about to pop out of your skull. It uses their over aggressiveness against them TO THE MAX. If you are constantly killing the people in your lane, the odds of a teamfight starting too early go down. Oh, AND you are getting fed to shit. This actually even has a name, its called a "kill lane" Oh, one more thing. If u can, make a video and post it in this thread so i can TROLOLOLOLOL whenever im having a bad day. EDIT: Note that Blitz rocket grab animation doesn't show to enemy champions till its already landed if launched from a bush ;)[/quote]