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February 11, 2012 9:17pm
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I noticed that when there is a jungler on the team everyone says that someone has to solo top! But I would of thought it depends on which side of the map you on? Can someone explain to me whey top must be soloed no matter what side of the map your on?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by lifebaka » February 11, 2012 9:30pm | Report
Because if the solo's went to different lanes, top and bottom would end up as 2v1 lanes. Think about it.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Chudz » February 11, 2012 9:44pm | Report
So the team on the left is always at a disavantage early game? due to the fact there jungler cant asist on ganks at solo lane because he has to walk the lenght of the map to get to assist him?

Or you could assist the 2v2 and have a 3v2 but then the other teams jungler would have to run the lengh of the map to get the same odds but instead he is stuck with a 2v2 since his jungle finishes next to the solo laner?

To me it doesnt seem balanced at all going for solo lane top all the time.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by lifebaka » February 11, 2012 10:30pm | Report
Blue has easier access to early bottom ganks, and purple has easier access to early top ganks, immediately after picking up red buff. Later in the game than that, and the difference between the two sides becomes fairly inconsequential, in terms of where is easier for the jungler to gank, simply because the jungler could be anywhere in their rotation.

Besides this, while you are correct about purple being able to gank top sooner (assuming a start at blue and no ganks until red for both sides), blue has slightly better access to top (can walk in just in front of purple's tower for flanking, bush location favors ganking overextended purple top, etc.). We could argue until our faces turn blue about which is more important. (The real answering being: whoever wards better has an advantage.) Overall, the map layout is relatively balanced.

Anyway, if you switched the solo lane to bottom you'd simply run into the exact same problem with blue/purple reversed, and matching up solo and duo lanes is only a great way to have the solo pretty much auto-lose the lane. While I understand that there might be a slight imbalance in terms of early ganks, I don't see any solutions that don't create worse problems.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Embracing » February 11, 2012 10:38pm | Report
And also 2 bot is for better dragon control too.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » February 11, 2012 11:12pm | Report
Solo top is usually because baron control is far less important at levels 1-6 than dragon is.

Also, on the topic of which side is disadvantaged early, with the newer jungle, most junglers end at the wraith camp anyway. Primed to gank either mid or the lane of their choosing.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by animorte » February 11, 2012 11:22pm | Report
You are over-thinking this...?

Don't make it complicated. You match up the same number of people so you don't have somebody at a disadvantage. It's that simple.

Well, if you want to be technical, everybody jungles at the start (stealing enemy buffs) in ranked.

Having good map control helps prevent those 2v3 situations and such. Keep that in mind too.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pølsemanden » February 12, 2012 4:18am | Report
Nope, the one with duo-golems for ad-carry are the ones at advantage. They also have the easier opportunity of ganking their top-lane(which is not warded early) through tri-bush.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Telloth » February 12, 2012 5:46am | Report
The reason the meta-game is that way is simply because of Dragon control early game. Baron doesn't even spawn until the 15 minute mark anyways, so it's a no brainer to have more people close to Dragon to contest for it.

As for advantages and disadvantages for each side, I think it's negligible.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Luther3000 » February 13, 2012 7:29pm | Report
I love how half the replies didn't even mention dragon. :P
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