using full on thornail

[quote=joanpiera]im a common AP tank user, and ive been questioning myself everytime i use thornail+sunfire if all that dmg im creating can somehow be absorbed.... can it become my life through lifesteal or spell vamp?... thnx in advance[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]No. Spell vamp only activates if you are using an ability. Life steal only works on auto attacks and [i]I think[/i] abilities that apply "on-hit effects"[/quote]

[quote=wRAthoFVuLK]yes you are right Lugignaf.[/quote]

[quote=Jebus McAzn]Spell vamp activates only on certain abilities - not on-hit abilities (I'm not talking about Parrrley or Double Up here, I'm talking about things like Toxic Shot). Actually, I'm not sure if it triggers on things like [[Empower]]. Could someone text that? It also triggers on active item abilities that deal damage (Deathfire Grasp, Hextech Gunblade, Bilgewater Cutlass).[/quote]

[quote=Canoas]Well, wriggles used to give hp when you dealt the extra 500dmg to minions, which means lifesteal procs off on hit effects. They changed it though, and now I'm not sure if it stopped working with on-hit effects or just with wriggles' passive.[/quote]

[quote=Mastarwe]that procc is now magic damage, meaning no lifesteal will work on it.[/quote]

[quote=Atarios]So, Spell vamp wouldnt work on Wriggles? >>[/quote]

[quote=Canoas]I don't know, but if wriggles' proc was changed to magic dmg (I didn't bother reading the patch notes) then it seems that physical damage procs are still affected by lifesteal. [[empower]], however, wouldn't. Magic damage procs could indeed provide health through spell vamp, but that's just something that needs to be tested.[/quote]