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Aggressive Support Mastery pg

Creator: FantasySniper April 27, 2014 8:30pm
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http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-4-0-0-1-0-3-0-0-0-1-3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=1-3-3-0-0-1-0-3-0-3-0-1-1-0-0-1-0-0&v=2

I've been trying out this page, but only have gotten so far with it and am looking for second opinions.

I came up with it because I wanted Zyra to have extra sustainability as a support, but I later tried it on Nami, too. I even tried it out on Janna once and got similar results. I don't think that it would work as well on Morgana, but it might do well enough for Annie.

So far:
It has some risk - but only some. Kills for my lane partner became a lot cleaner and I could stay in lane for as long as I liked no matter how often that partner would leave because I would've gotten back resources for just causing damage and helping my lane partner accomplish kills. The only way I found it failed me is if we could accomplish nothing (not even assists from ganks) in lane, then the advantage of it was gone the entire time I was in the laning phase.

Later on it made teamfights easier to survive because no matter what damage I took during the fight, so long as we won the fight I could most definitely go without backing after situations I probably would have even died in in the first place. It even became possible to solo certain enemies granted I had a healthy kill participation before then.

It also has the added advantage of not worrying about going over the CDR limit. It may be a personal thing in this case, but it opened up several item choices that I usually would be forced to ignore.

Please test it out and tell about how well it worked for you.
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Why I think Wanderer is a lovely mastery for supports to have:

- faster lane return
- easier skillshot dodging
- chase potential / escape potential
- "replaces" Mobility Boots after the nerf, you can go Sorcerer's Shoes or Ionian Boots of Lucidity on Zyra, depending on what you're building
- faster movement overall over map and all of its benefits


Also,

You have no CDR in this page? Early 10% CDR is huge when counted on high-impact ultimates, like Stranglethorns and Soul Shackles and might generally be save your life during trade. The item CDR from Intelligence is also very good mastery. There's a lot of items that grant raw power and mana regen w/o extra CDR.

Basically, you could go 9/0/21 instead with better benefits.

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I wouldn't take Vampirism ... I think that the Alchemist + Culinary Master give you much more sustain (+1 spare point). I don't think either of that is very usable late game...
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Culinary Master is kinda meh tbeh. it stops being worth taking really fast.

Personally, I'd use something more like this.
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I already know of the 9/0/21 page, I was asking for second opinions about how well others found the page I posted above to work.

This isn't to change your mind about what mastery page to use, but to ask you to try it out and see if you get similar results.
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The issue is that the four extra points in offense don't give you enough to be worth what you lose for not putting them in utility, which is why everyone is suggesting using a 9-0-21 page over your 13-0-17 page.

if you don't want to use 9-0-21, then I'd honestly suggest 0-13-17.

13 points in defense > 13 points in offense
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I agree with nameless, I don't understand why putting points in Executioner and Dangerous Game only. It makes sense if you're going 13 points deep. Not only but Nami and Janna aren't really that aggressive. It would make sense on someone like Zyra or Annie, but probably not morg, nami, janna.

I use a number of different builds on Zyra

21/0/9

0/21/9

0/9/21

I've been testing out the 0/21/9 build, it's interesting. If you want something aggressive I would put 21 points into offense
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The issue is that the four extra points in offense don't give you enough to be worth what you lose for not putting them in utility, which is why everyone is suggesting using a 9-0-21 page over your 13-0-17 page.
if you don't want to use 9-0-21, then I'd honestly suggest 0-13-17.

13 points in defense > 13 points in offense

Pretty much.

Culinary Master can save your life, though.
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Several thoughts:
Why would you need AS on supports? CDR scales better into the late game, and also is more useful on supports!
Why would you need dangerous game on supports? I know it's an okay mastery if you're getting kills, but you probably won't get kills on supports. I hope not, at least! Unless you're doing something truly outrageous like AP leblanc support, the kills will likely be of greater benefit to your ADC.
Why Vampirism? 3% Lifesteal and spellvamp really doesn't heal much unless you're doing a lot of damage.
Bandit's a cute mastery (imo one of the most fun masteries to play with), but why would you pick bandit over something like Intelligence ? you dumb bro! (pun intended)
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For my ap supports like morgana, I go 9/6/15. Give it a shot.
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