Garen Mid?

[quote=Chie]So, uh a friend of mine played Garen mid, and we won. So I'm just wondering if they sucked or like it's viable.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]The reason it even remotely works is because Garen is AD and mages have very, very little armor. The silence helps too. If they are a strong kiter, Garen go down fairly easily since he has no reliable gap closer.[/quote]

[quote=Chie]He won against a Zyra, isn't she a pretty bigger kiter or am I just dumb[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka]Zyra's also new, which means the chances that whoever was playing her had little to no clue what they're doing is fairly high. So, probably, they sucked, compared to your friend. But yes, anyone who has some form of reliable CC that impedes movement should be able to run circles around Garen mid. Garen might have an advantage at early levels, because his damage output is high and he is fairly tanky then, but he's not going to do well against anyone who plays defensively, stays out of his range, and harasses him.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Garen is shit anywhere, even worse mid.[/quote]

[quote=Xenotechie][quote=DuffTime] Garen is shit anywhere, even worse mid. [/quote] Easy to say that when half of the playerbase builds him tanky and expects their enemies to focus him because... yeah, [[Garen]] is a shit tank. Can't say that for all his builds. On topic, I don't think [[Garen]] at mid would really work. I can see the appeal, but his problem is having to get in close and personal to deal damage, and half of the standard mid laners can prevent that.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]not even counter to [[Kassadin]]?[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]If he hit flash q at level 6 the mid is insteadead but thats about it.[/quote]

[quote=lifebaka][quote=Pheyniex] not even counter to [[Kassadin]]? [/quote] Kass harasses with Qs, uses either his E or R (or both) to get away any time Garen tries to engage, and doesn't go in except to do final burst for the kill. Also, at early levels, Kass's W may allow him to straight up trade autoattacks with Garen. 5 seconds of +30 damage is pretty baller.[/quote]

[quote=Somalie]Hopefully the game does start with everyone at lvl 1. in this case Garen can trolololol Kassadin for some minutes.[/quote]