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Going an ap bot lane

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May 25, 2012 4:26pm
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DeadlyXD » May 25, 2012 4:26pm | Report
Recently I've thought to myself, " I feel like the meta needs a shift". I think It should be;
Top lane; A tank and a damage dealer eg: Talon and Sion. ( tank roams after a while)
Mid; Ad carry eg: Varus/Ashe
Bot; Ap and support eg: Ryze and soraka. Taric and kennen.

Top lane should take smite. and jungle after level 4.
Mid should just farm awawy.
Bot lane should farm and deal damage Steal the other teams blue buff, if blue team.
Hi. Thats it is all.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by animorte » May 26, 2012 7:24pm | Report
How about take both your team's buffs at level 1 (give one to AP Carry and one to AD Carry, unless others work better with it) so enemies don't have free reign of your ENTIRE jungle.

Want to know how to change the 'meta'? Use your idea with a team and make the current 'meta' look pitiful in comparison.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by PanaC » May 27, 2012 9:38pm | Report
Sounds like fun.

You'd have to run MR on AD Carries, but, after that, you should destroy mid lanes.

Bot would need hard support for traditional AP carries, but kennen/vlad/any other ap champ that can double solo top would work fine. They'd be at a bit of a disadvantage early on, but AD dominating mid would probably give them the relief they need.

Top sounds the same to me. I like the idea of later jungle, mostly because I don't jungle due to the fact that I don't want to learn jungle starting items for each champ.

Maybe I'll try this with some friends tomorrow.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by animorte » May 28, 2012 10:17pm | Report
The reason you don't want to take AD Carries Mid is because they are focused on sustained damage. The reason AP Mid is more popular now and a part of this 'meta' is because AP Carries generally do burst damage, which most AD Carries can't withstand at any point in the game.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by sh0cki » May 29, 2012 7:52am | Report
not only sustained/burst, but AD carries scales with gold and need farm. AP are more exp dependant - that is why they are on solo lane. And AD carries are too squishy alone and would be destroyed mid by jungler.

you can play with altering meta on 5man premades, but do not force it on solo/duoQ.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by animorte » May 29, 2012 9:07am | Report
You would probably be fine with those AD Carries that have a small burst of their own or some kind of really good cc/escape (Tristana, Caitlyn, Corki).
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by PanaC » May 29, 2012 1:28pm | Report
Caitlyn mid has always been viable IMO
Corki doesn't have the range to mid against hard CC AP Carries like Annie, Morgana, Ryze, or Lux, and especially not against someone like Leblanc
Tristana might suffer a bit until her passive kicks in really well, but her explosive shot could keep her pushed constantly.
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This term 'viability' is used so loosely.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by trufast » May 30, 2012 6:48am | Report
AD carries scale with gold, AP carries scale more with lvls than ADs, and gain more of an early teamfight advantage with a solo lane. Of course you can change it around to beat whoever you face, but in general the meta is teh ****. Tho not so much now that you get more xp for duo lanes. Another thing is mid is the best place to be for an AP if your jungler want to steal their blue.

That said, there is alot of synergy between the cc supports like Blitz and Leona and skillshot champs like Veigar and Brand.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Couch8246 » May 31, 2012 10:53am | Report
My friend and I run Annie/Leona in bot lane all the time. The stuns we have make the opposing side look like noobs
You can't spell damage without mage
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