Help With Jarvan vs AP Top

[quote=CrazyMBP]Hey guys. I've been maining Jarvan top for a while now following Plazmuh's build on Solomid (its AWESOME), and been having a ton of success. Two champs have constantly given me trouble though - kennen and vladimir. He recommends a rune page of ArPen Marks, 2 Health Regen Quints, 1 MR Quint, Flat MR blues, 6 Health per level yellows, and 3 armor yellows. Anyway, I use lifesteal quints instead of health regen when i play J4, and i don't have health per elvel yellows. I'm curious, do you tyhink a full MR rune page would work against vlad and kennen? I saw in the patch preview that these runes are getting nerfed, but do you think this will work against AP champs top lane? Thanks![/quote]

[quote=Somalie]It already work in top and, in a certain point, in midlane. Against vlad, it surely helps a lot. Against kennen too, but kennen loves to harass with AA in early game, so don't expect to take no damage from him ^^. But keep in mind that red and quint MR also shut down your damages, that's why I personnaly use some yellow+blue+one or 2 quint defensive (armor or mr) and the red and the other quints are AD, arpen or MR. The full defensive runepages work great on champ who have heavy built-in dmg like olaf or scale poorly on AD/arpen/Mpen (shen). And here you understand how big is the amount of IP a solo top has to farm to have a good choice of runepages ... Still farming MR quints :c Then mr boots, sustain and HP and the toplane is yours I saw the patch preview too, and it is said that the nerf wont be that huge, a full MR runepage would lose 4 ou 6 mr[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]Kennen and Vlad are gay laners, and since Jarvan isn't naturally good at top lane, I'd assume you'd have to play relatively more passive. I don't play Jarvan a lot in top so I can't say about his laning capabilities. But, Hexdrinker #1 ^ ^ Get an early Hexdrinker and you'll do better in lane[/quote]