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Trinity Force, Tiger Stance, %AS and Penetration

Creator: Squall September 25, 2010 2:06pm
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Hello :)

I have a few questions that are still bothering me, about game theory...

1st
Trinity Force:
it is said it gives you 130% AD Buff. Does it include Item-Damage or just Basic Damage?

2nd
Tiger Stance, similar question. it says it gives x3 AD + 70%AS over 2 seconds: How does it work?
If you have 120AD(Basic)+180AD(Weapon) (so 300 total AD), does it boost your whole Dmg, so you have like 900AD over 2 seconds? Or just your Basic Dmg so you got 360(120x3)+180 = 540 AD over 2 seconds?

3rd
Attackspeed:
Can someone tell me how to count with it? so how much Attacks/second is how much %AS?

4th
Penetration... I've read so much about it... Finally, again my question, because everyone has a different opinion:
Can you penetrate below 0?
Does Penetration works like |Resistance-lowering| or is it just |Resistance-Ignoring|.

If some of the questions were already answered, it would be nice if you send me the link to the Thread.

Thanks in advance!
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1. trinity force now does 150%... and no it says base damage.

2. i havnt played udyr, but im pretty sure that is not how it works.

3. % increases by that percent ammount. if your base attack speed is 1 per second (which its not but its just an example.) and you get a 50% increase, your attack speed is 1.5 per second. (max at 2.5/second)

4. once again im not sure but it should go below 0, armor reduction from spells/items can bring yoru armor below 0, so why shouldnt penetration do that?

but for questions about game mechanics you should see lvx's stickied thread about game mechanics, top of the page.
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@ Caucheka
First, thank you =)
I read the whole thread from lvx, i think he said it is possible to penetrate below 0 and i believed him and added it into my guide.
and suddenly someone said it's not true, penetration is just "ignoring" and you have to have Amumu or Fiddle in your team to get the M-Resistance below 0 etc. ...

-> it confuses me

2. so how does that work :P?
maybe someone who is experienced at playing Udyr can answer :3
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I think i solved my problem.
"Udyr splits his attacks into 3 lightning fast hits
on hit effects only trigger off the first hit"
so just the first of your three hits deals x3 Damage.

So if you have 300 AD ( 100 + 100 + 100 [splitted])
after Tiger, you would deal
300+100+100 per hit.

so with tiger 500Dmg, without 300Dmg

1,66x Dmg + 70%Attackspeed, still good imo 0.0
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still thinking about that Penetration = Ignoring or Lowering - thing.......
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http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3287
Q: Can you reduce armor or magic resistance below 0?

A: Yes, although the only things that can reduce below 0 is Armor/MR Reduction. Both percentage and flat penetration do not have an effect after they get to 0 armor/MR.


last question answered...^^

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