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League of Legends (LoL) Question: Black cleaver

Posted in Items | Tags: Jayce Talon The Black Cleaver Zed 4,643

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    Black cleaver

    On zed I think that the rework is going to make me buy yomuus every game...20% cdr is nice and 200 extra hp is good too but the damage nerf really feels bad and the flat Apen is gone now...is this item even worth getting anymore mostly on zed, talon, and jayce
  • Answers (2)

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    Janitsu (569) | April 30, 2015 9:48am
    I'd say it is. 10 flat armor pen isn't really much of anything apart from the 30 armor they have in the beginning. And I have ran armor pene quints on zed and talon for a while now anyways.

    EDIT: In addition, I think Youmuu's Ghostblade has been superior for a long time already.
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    gigagloin (1) | May 1, 2015 9:19am
    The intention of the new Black Cleaver is to counter tanks that build a lot (LOT!) of armor, e. g. Malphite or Taric. Since Talon and Zed both rely on shutting down squishies in a full combo rather than fighting over longer periods of time, Youmuu's Ghostblade or Last Whisper are stronger choices on them.

    On Jayce however, it's depending on your playstyle. If you play him as an assassin to burst down their ADC or AP mid, Ghostblade it is. But if you fight with tanks or offtanks Cleaver is stronger.

    Long story short: Ghostblade is superior on assassins and bursty champions that want to kill enemies in the blink of an eye, while the new Cleaver is better for bruisers, offtanks (or ADCs) to melt down the opposing tanks. Cleavers offers a nice amount of stats, but the HP and 20% are not as important on assassins as the active from Ghostblade.
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