League of Legends (LoL) Question: Def'n of a Spell for new masteries

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Def'n of a Spell for new masteries

Asked by DKitten on November 21, 2013

What's the definition of a spell? An ability that deals magical damage and isn't an AA-modifier?

Examples to mark as spell or not a spell:
's (AA-modifier, temporary, deals magic)
's (toggle, deals magic)
's (physical damage)
's (deals no damage)
's (physical damage but scales with AP)
's (skillshot that applies on-hit)

Answers (2)

(539) |

"What's the definition of a spell? An ability that deals magical damage and isn't an AA-modifier?"

Nope, just an ability that isn't an AA modifier. This means that physical damage will also count as spell damage. You can get a Liandrys effect on Ashes volley for example or Pantheon's Q.

Though AA modifiers generally do not count as spells, there are some exceptions to the AA-modifier rule. Like Kayles Righteous Fury and Poppy's Devastating Blow. This is probably because both champions can be played in a full AP role, therefore it can be useful to check the LoLwiki for those kind of situations :P

Also; For things like Elise Cocoons, I am not sure if they count as a spell, but since the "spell requiring" items also require damage (eg Rylais and Liandrys), I don't think it really matters :P (it does pop spellshields tho)

(66) |

Attack modifiers do not count as spell damage (as I learned when testing gangplank's with whose passive aplies specifically to spell damage).
Also, abilities that deal physical damage can't trigger it either, regardless of what stat it scales with (which is why 's doesn't trigger it).

Toggles like work.

So yeah, magic damage and not an attack modifier is pretty much the definition of a spell.

(66) |

Your right, had a quick check ingame on the jax thing.

Having now checked the lolwiki+ a couple other forums, it seems that the only AA modifiers that actually proc liandrys are ap based (ie: and ), which doesn't really make sense given how its both ad and ap based spells that should be affected :s

(539) |

"Also, abilities that deal physical damage can't trigger it either" This is not true. The jax example DOES count as a spell, so does any physical damaging ability (except most AA modifiers)

(66) |

Actually is counted as an AA modifier in game. They made it that way so they could easily let it apply onhit effects and Crit. But yeah, that physical damage thing is a good point, really should have thought that through XD

Im just assuming they mean the same thing as liandry's when they say "spell" damage, since otherwise the terminology would just become even more confusing.

(531) |

Liandry only works with magic damage so that explains why it doesn't work with parrrley.

I'm also not sure on what counts as a spell. Would Draven's spinning axe be amplified by spell weaving? If so, I'm taking it.

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