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League of Legends (LoL) Question: Mid Rengar?

Posted in Champions | Tags: Rengar 10,223

  • OTGBionicArm

    Mid Rengar?

    I've play around and had success as Zed mid, as well as Talon (Still need to try Kha'Zix).

    Now my next question is; Is Rengar a viable mid? (AD Rengar, or Assassin Rengar)

    I know he recently got a pretty hard nerf, but what do you guys think of his viability mid as an anti-caster, or his viability in generally in his current state?
  • Answers (6)

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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 4:18am
    The joy of playing Rengar(for me atleast) is jumping from your bush and zoning them from in your bush. However, mid lane doesn't provide some of the things he needs to be most useful. He is viable just more optimal to be played top or jungle.
    As for Kha'Zix, I have a friend who plays him mid and completely roflstomps everyone he lanes against 1500 elo +
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    Bomazon (2) | December 30, 2012 2:38am
    Nor as effective.
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    A Chubby Baby (290) | December 30, 2012 2:37am
    mid takes the bushes away from rengar because they're so far off to the side, so it's not as fun XD.
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 5:12pm
    Well OTG is 1300 if 1500 players can roflstomp with it. Most likely he'll also find success with it.
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    GrandmasterD (531) | December 29, 2012 4:30pm
    @psi: they probable do; but who cares? Everyone will agree that Kha'Zix is about a million times better in mid than Rengar. His argument was that something is good because it roflstomps at 1500 and I'm just illustrating that that is a terrible argument.
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    PsiGuard (1495) | December 29, 2012 4:27pm
    Well Nick, TPA probably thinks you're bad too.
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    Pluckin Penguin (117) | December 29, 2012 4:03pm
    Other thing you probably noticed about the popular AD mids is that they all have forms of reliable gap closers which rengar doesn't.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | December 29, 2012 7:50am
    :[ that's mean.
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    GrandmasterD (531) | December 29, 2012 7:47am
    What I meant was: 1.5k players are bad.
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    Embracing (353) | December 29, 2012 7:39am
    Ehm Khazix mid is broken permaben
    And yeah to be honest you cant really say somethings fully viable at mid~high elo
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | December 29, 2012 7:04am
    Ok, thanks for answering, everyone. :3
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 7:03am
    @GrandmasterD What I meant was, he's 1500 yet he can still win mid lane using Kha'Zix. I didn't mean he was a 2900 playing against 1500s....
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    Embracing (353) | December 29, 2012 6:35am
    Rengar is one of the champs most prone to kiting (without ult or passive) so nah.
    Furthermore picking a champ mid isn't just for the lane dominance. Still have to factor in transitions, range poke, dragon control, etc.
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    GrandmasterD (531) | December 29, 2012 6:30am
    I roflstomp everything at 1500 elo with about everything. Even Taric mid. Doesn't mean it's strong or viable.
    Rengar isn't a mid, he gets screwed over by long range harass.
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 5:04am
    Still no rep...FUUUU LOL
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    Vapora Dark (624) | December 29, 2012 4:56am
    You max Rake on Talon. ;) It does more damage, and it's ranged. But if you're against a meelee mid, maxing Q is also viable for lowering the CD, as it becomes possible to harass with Q. I'd still max W though.
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 4:50am
    That really helps, I'm a top/jungle guy myself :D trying to climb out of elo hell nao ;) add meh? Snizzle
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | December 29, 2012 4:49am
    Well, this AD mid stuff is entirely new territory for me, that's why I'm asking about it. Honestly, the only mid I ever play is usually Viktor; as many people on this site know. :p

    Trying to broaden my horizons.
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 4:47am
    Well you should be giving me tips. LOL I was 1500 in s2 and suddenly my password wouldn't work. So now im in elo hell after making a new account. 1180ish QQ
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | December 29, 2012 4:46am
    1300ish? I haven't played ranked much this season. XD
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 4:44am
    On Talon I would advise maxing Rake it helps a lot with harass. btw can I ask you what your elo is?
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | December 29, 2012 4:43am
    Yea, that's what I've heard. Maxing Zed's Q also helped for that reason.

    Talon; I am still unsure of wether to max Rake or Noxian Diplomacy.
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 4:41am
    Yeah, you generally wanna put emphasis on your spikes as I feel they help a lot when poking down the enemy mid. Because most AP Mids are ranged.
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    OTGBionicArm (415) | December 29, 2012 4:39am
    Thanks, I was kinda thinking the bushes might screw him over, but wasn't entirely sure.

    I'll have to give Kha'Zix a try.
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    svanskyy | January 12, 2014 4:39am
    My answer about Rengar on MID, he is my favourite charecter, i used to be in MID but Rengar isn't good for solo playing. He isn't fast, he is powerful but cant play 1VS1.
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    tehAsian (247) | December 29, 2012 5:29pm
    Obligatory answer to OTG's question because I was mentioned.

    Release Rengar was a good mid with that 1:1 ratio on W.

    I think it'd still be decent because Bola harass is stupid and if you ever get close to them you'd nuke them pretty hard with QQ.

    Also keep in mind he was nerfed pretty hard, so I don't know how viable it really is now.
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    Pluckin Penguin (117) | December 30, 2012 2:19am
    If the mid laner has any form of cc he is not going to get anywhere close to the other mid without the assistance of the jungler. However, his sustain is infinite if Battle Roar is maxed, and his wave clear is fast. This allows him to have great roam potential once he hits lvl 6. Other than that, Rengar doesn't have all that much kill potential in the mid lane alone unless the enemy doesn't have any form of reliable crowd control.
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 6:02pm
    Yeah, the nerf hit him hard....
    He's not as good as he once was.
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    Vapora Dark (624) | December 29, 2012 4:53am
    As Asian said, brush is core to Rengar's gameplay. The brush on the sides of mid-lane won't reach minions or your enemy. You're literally left with nothing except poking with E until level 6 when you FINALLY have a gap-closer.

    Kha'Zix on the other hand, is a great mid-laner, and by taking Q and E it's entirely possible to get a first blood at level 2, if you strike while your enemy is still level 1.

    He is also an extremely good counter-jungler, and he can counter-jungle better if he's mid than if he were actually jungling, because the level advantage on Taste Their Fear will obliterate the enemy jungler. I've been playing Kha'Zix mid a lot recently, and it's been extremely common for me to waltz into the enemy jungle and 1-shot their jungler. It's even become routine for me to go to their red at a certain point and just kill their jungler for double buff. ( Which makes it extremely easy to kill the enemy mid if you haven't done so already )

    At the moment, Kha'Zix is my favourite mid due to how totally in control you feel over the enemy mid and jungle, and I fully recommend you to try it.
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    PsiGuard (1495) | December 29, 2012 4:29pm
    I lol'd.
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 5:02am
    LOL eskay~ :D
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    Vapora Dark (624) | December 29, 2012 4:57am
    FU AND YOUR PROFILE PICTURE. I thought you were tehAsian. :(

    As Bomazon said, then. :P
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    Bomazon (2) | December 29, 2012 4:56am
    As Asian said, wat. LOL
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    TheLokis | January 6, 2013 11:26pm
    Rengar Isn't reallly viable mid.
    In fact, if you want to farm a lot he might be the right person, but until level 6 he has no gap closers and is a melee champion.

    Mid lane doesn't provide bushes for you to leap from, (yes, there are 2, but they are too far for you to take advantage and hide there jumping on minions like you do on top lane).

    You can poke with your E, but it will cost a lot mid game, when you have your E maxed out, but all your damage and tankyness still waiting.
    And in case your jungler comes ganking before you are level 6, he MUST have forms of CC, or else you won't be able to get close.
    Just take rengar top, jungle he isn't viable and mid there are a lot better picks for AD mids
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    Minho (111) | December 29, 2012 11:01pm
    I've seen it done quite a bit, with lots of success.
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