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This was a terrible game and don't tell me "Well you went Ashe support noob". I believe in the power of Support Ashe. Draven and I were holding bottom lane as well as we could. I even assisted 7 of his 10 kills. However, Warwick hard camped our lane and made laning a pain in the ***. So while bot 3v2 for most of the early game, our top lane Fiora fed Ryze.
The Teamwork was non existent in this game, but I felt like Draven and I did the best we could. The enemy team just happened to snowball early and dominate the game. It didn't help that I got caught out a lot too.
@Toplane meta:
False. Top lane is essentially the farmfest lane, not the "push-like-birthgiving-mother" lane.
@Midlane meta:
Mages are usually pretty immobile people though and there are mages with more sustained damage and mages who are sustained damage in the early game and burst damage mid-late game
@Botlane meta:
ADCs are not supposed to shred tanks but instead focus the closest high priority targets without putting oneself in to a significant danger. The are also more like 3/10 focused in the teamfights mainly because currently ADCs have to get that hypercarry status before they are dishing out more damage than mages or assassins (not necessarily always but usually).
Thank you for your input. I will use the information you have given me and rework my current strategies.
I've always felt that Mid laning champs had more freedom to roam and should use that opportunity to do so. They are situated in the middle of the map and can usually do more for a team by putting pressure on areas of the map that are more easily accessible to them. During the initial laning phase I understand that they should be in their lane for the most part, but once you take enemies outer tower shouldn't you roam and gank more?
False. Top lane is essentially the farmfest lane, not the "push-like-birthgiving-mother" lane.
@Midlane meta:
Mages are usually pretty immobile people though and there are mages with more sustained damage and mages who are sustained damage in the early game and burst damage mid-late game
@Botlane meta:
ADCs are not supposed to shred tanks but instead focus the closest high priority targets without putting oneself in to a significant danger. The are also more like 3/10 focused in the teamfights mainly because currently ADCs have to get that hypercarry status before they are dishing out more damage than mages or assassins (not necessarily always but usually).
1) You can get away with doing anything at bronze;
2) In order to challenge the meta, you first need to understand what the meta is and why it exists
Well the current Meta is Bruiser Top, Mage/Assassin Mid, DPS Marksman and Support/Tank Bot, and a Jungler. It's a nice meta that does well enough. Let's start with the Top Lane. The Top Lane borders the North and West Region of the map. This lane's objective is simply to push and hold the top tower. Baron Nashor is located near the top lane. In order to have a successful Nashor take down, it's essential that this lane is pushed and pressured. We put our Bruisers here because they can hold/push the lane with their tanky and offensive abilities. If a top lane is doing well they should be doing nothing but pushing, and occasional roaming.
Mid Lane:
The Middle lane is the shortest lane and the most trafficked area of the map. Mages/Assassin have high mobility and burst damage. Their objective is to push with their heavy damage and roam. We put them mid because it allows them to level up faster and since mages/assassin's have strong early game advantages they are usually the first or second one to take down a tower. If a Mid lane is doing well they should be roaming and securing kills. Along with the jungler, they must have good map awareness and be able to respond to situations happening around the map.
Bottom Lane:
Home to our ADC and Support. Bottom lane borders the South and East Region of the map and is the most hard pushed lane in the game usually. Dragon is also near Bot lane. Dragon is the reason we put two Champions in Bottom lane. A DPS (usually ranged) is the person on the team that is going to be doing the most damage. It's their job to shred the enemy tanks and to kite since they are 10/10 the most focused. And if your dps isn't focusing tanks, they are doing it wrong. It's the rest of the team that needs to focus and peel the squishys. The dps is also important for securing Dragon. If a DPS is doing well he should have most of the kills on the team. This is his objective, to secure kills and last hit minions. Ad items are expensive and so it's the Supports job to make sure their Marksman succeeds in lane. They need to peel enemy champs harass by tanking or by providing sustain and utility. A support should usually come with a range of Crowd Control which is handy for any situation.
Jungler:
Probably the most important role in the game. The Jungler's job is to secure objectives and gank lanes whenever they get out of line. The junglers home is in the fog of war and their game play is usually the most challenging and dangerous. It's the Junglers job to keep map awareness and to ping the map. I like to use the "Going to" ping because it allows my team to know what route I'm going. This helps your team know if you are going to be anywhere near them or not. A lane should not over extend if their Jungler is not in their map Region. The Jungler has to lead the charge on objective securing, mainly towers and dragon.
let me know if I forgot anything ( ^ . ^ )
2) In order to challenge the meta, you first need to understand what the meta is and why it exists
How often do you play Ashe support, and why? Fun, or?
I like to challenge the Meta. You will see a lot of strange picks from me. Most of the games I have with Support Ashe have been good. You build her with a lot of Utility and off AD. She provides a lot more push potential to your lane, and her abilities help keep you and your lane partner safe. Ashe excels incredibly well at kiting. Because of your squishy nature you will get focused 10/10 of the time. If your positioning skills are good (which mine are non-existent xP) you can kite back any enemy while the real AD whittles away at them. A lot of my assists and kills as support Ashe came from our lane opponents underestimating me.
Rule nr 1: A loss is always your own fault, unless you have an intentional feeder or AFK.
This being said, support Ashe might be fun in normal games, but don't do it in ranked. You have your ultimate but that's about it. Just another squishy champion while you could have an extra tank with great peel.
I'm not saying it wasn't my fault. I understand the things I did wrong. I made just as many bad plays as the rest of my team and I'll openly admit I'm not that great of a LoL Player. There's so many things I ended up doing wrong.
Sometimes duo Ad bot lanes works. The team we were going up against, however, did not make duo ad as easy as it sometimes is. I didn't take the team combo into account and I should have picked a tank with great peel like you said. Ashe doesn't really make a good support for Draven. He doesn't have any poke so he requires a tank that can peel enemies and allow him to farm. Ashe works better with poke champions.
This being said, support Ashe might be fun in normal games, but don't do it in ranked. You have your ultimate but that's about it. Just another squishy champion while you could have an extra tank with great peel.