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My solo top tier list for Solo Queue, because everyone else is doing one :D
Remember tier lists are mostly opinion and up for discussion.
Champions are graded on multiple things:
Tier 1: Very very strong champions. They are consistent throughout the game, have few weak points, and can even potentially solo carry games.
Tier 2: Strong champions, but they have weaknesses that can be abused. Some are about as strong as Tier 1 champions under circumstances that benefit them.
Tier 3: Not bad, just not the best. If you're really good at these champions it's possible to do really well, but the main things holding these champions back are easy to abuse weaknesses.
Tier 4: These champions suck **** (at top lane).
Tier 5: Gimmick tier, or champions that haven't yet proven to be strong, or just 'fun' picks. AKA Where the **** do I place these champions.
*Tier 5 does not mean the champion sucks more than the champions that suck ****, by the way*
Tier 1:
Renekton: About 1-2 champions can beat him in lane. His level 1-6 is absurdly strong which gives him a lot of snowball potential, he pushes well, he's hard to kill, and his late game while it isn't strong is acceptable because he just builds tank and transitions into a front line.
Lee Sin: His versatility alone allows him to win literally 99% of lanes through counterbuilding or maxing out the appropriate ability. He has an AoE cripple. He is an excellent duelist. He has the highest sustain out of every top laner in the game due to being resourceless, having a shield, and having built in life steal. He literally has everything you want in a top laner. His weakness of being less than spectacular late game is completely overshadowed by everything else he can and will do.
Jax: He's literally received nothing except indirect buffs since the beginning of Season 3. His pre-6 isn't spectacular, but it isn't weak at all and once he his 6 he can out-duel pretty much everyone. He is arguably the strongest late game bruiser in the entire game on top of having insanely high free steroids.
Rumble: Massive bully to melee laners and The Equalizer. That is all.
JK The Equalizer is just such a stupid ability. It's able to initiate AND do a million damage AND slow people so you can catch up, and then you do a million more with Flamespitter's stupidly high base damage in overheat. In an AoE. His only weakness is his level 1-4, which proven by my friend isn't a huge hurdle.
Zac: He's like a mobile, tankier Rumble but with less damage. Zac has one of the best initiates in the game coupled with damage and is ridiculously hard to kill. He builds 1 maybe 2 damage items and a Sunfire and somehow has enough damage to crush your backline. His one weakness is that he sucks at dueling, but that's negligible if he snowballs or if he finally bought enough sustain to heal everything up.
Tier 2:
Shen, Vladimir, Rengar, Tryndamere, Aatrox, Elise, Riven, Zed, Kennen, Jayce, Malphite, Nasus, AD Nidalee
Tier 3:
Irelia, Jarvan IV, Kayle, Darius, Singed, Trundle, Teemo, Udyr, Wukong, Yorick, Diana, Xin Zhao, Poppy
Tier 4:
Garen, Ryze, Kha'Zix, Pantheon, Cho'Gath, Warwick, Gangplank, Mordekaiser, Talon, Fiora
Tier 5:
Skarner, Karma, Olaf, Volibear
Remember tier lists are mostly opinion and up for discussion.
Champions are graded on multiple things:
- Scaling; How well they scale into mid/late game, but also how their early game holds up. Priority is mid game > mid-late game > early game > late game because of the snowball nature of Solo Queue, because of the importance of mid game, and because late game isn't always reached.
- Snowball; Top lane is by far the lane that snowballs the hardest. Give Jax, Riven, Darius etc a kill and a jungler gank is almost REQUIRED to reset.
- Recovery; How well they can recover from being set back.
- Dueling; Top lane is 90% of the time a 1v1 lane. How your lane goes depends a lot on if you can duel the other laner.
- Pressure; This is divided into two, team fight pressure and split push pressure.
- Matchups; How well this champion does against other top laners. The less negative matchups, the better.
Tier 1: Very very strong champions. They are consistent throughout the game, have few weak points, and can even potentially solo carry games.
Tier 2: Strong champions, but they have weaknesses that can be abused. Some are about as strong as Tier 1 champions under circumstances that benefit them.
Tier 3: Not bad, just not the best. If you're really good at these champions it's possible to do really well, but the main things holding these champions back are easy to abuse weaknesses.
Tier 4: These champions suck **** (at top lane).
Tier 5: Gimmick tier, or champions that haven't yet proven to be strong, or just 'fun' picks. AKA Where the **** do I place these champions.
*Tier 5 does not mean the champion sucks more than the champions that suck ****, by the way*
Tier 1:
Renekton: About 1-2 champions can beat him in lane. His level 1-6 is absurdly strong which gives him a lot of snowball potential, he pushes well, he's hard to kill, and his late game while it isn't strong is acceptable because he just builds tank and transitions into a front line. Lee Sin: His versatility alone allows him to win literally 99% of lanes through counterbuilding or maxing out the appropriate ability. He has an AoE cripple. He is an excellent duelist. He has the highest sustain out of every top laner in the game due to being resourceless, having a shield, and having built in life steal. He literally has everything you want in a top laner. His weakness of being less than spectacular late game is completely overshadowed by everything else he can and will do. Jax: He's literally received nothing except indirect buffs since the beginning of Season 3. His pre-6 isn't spectacular, but it isn't weak at all and once he his 6 he can out-duel pretty much everyone. He is arguably the strongest late game bruiser in the entire game on top of having insanely high free steroids. Rumble: Massive bully to melee laners and The Equalizer. That is all.JK
The Equalizer is just such a stupid ability. It's able to initiate AND do a million damage AND slow people so you can catch up, and then you do a million more with Flamespitter's stupidly high base damage in overheat. In an AoE. His only weakness is his level 1-4, which proven by my friend isn't a huge hurdle. Zac: He's like a mobile, tankier Rumble but with less damage. Zac has one of the best initiates in the game coupled with damage and is ridiculously hard to kill. He builds 1 maybe 2 damage items and a Sunfire and somehow has enough damage to crush your backline. His one weakness is that he sucks at dueling, but that's negligible if he snowballs or if he finally bought enough sustain to heal everything up.Tier 2:
Shen, Vladimir, Rengar, Tryndamere, Aatrox, Elise, Riven, Zed, Kennen, Jayce, Malphite, Nasus, AD NidaleeTier 3:
Irelia, Jarvan IV, Kayle, Darius, Singed, Trundle, Teemo, Udyr, Wukong, Yorick, Diana, Xin Zhao, PoppyTier 4:
Garen, Ryze, Kha'Zix, Pantheon, Cho'Gath, Warwick, Gangplank, Mordekaiser, Talon, FioraTier 5:
Skarner, Karma, Olaf, Volibear
Also, even if you don't agree,
Irelia is low because her late game isn't spectacular and other champions can do her job of killing carries but better, and more. See: Jax.
Of course there are.
Diamond tier strats are guaranteed to work at lower levels. I've smurfed in bronze, silver and gold and played as I normally do. Diamond strats work even BETTER there.
What in your opinion prevents
What makes him unwanted pick for Europeans and NA?
I'm not quite sure. Because no one actually plays him except Dyrus? And I think Dyrus picked him in a game. And it's a general rule that when you play to win you pick champions you know how to play.
As for my opinions towards the tier list:
- Udyr should be lower
- Trundle should be lower
- Pantheon higher
- Teemo lower
- Morde lower
- Zac lower
- Nasus around Singed or Singed around Nasus
- Shen higher
- Lee sin lower
- Poppy lower
Can you be a bit more specific? O_o
Lower tier, lower in a specific tier, and reasons?
Garen is good at what he does (being a lane bully and a meatbag). And yes, he scales very poorly unless you get really ahead. I'm not a fan of Garen at all. But according to Tier 3's definition, he is definitely Tier 3 and not 4: a champion with some strengths but clear weaknesses that are fairly easy to exploit.
Tier 3 is "This champion isn't bad or good, but I'm good with him so it doesn't matter, I can win."
Tier 4 is "This champion sucks ****."
For Garen, it's not a problem with player skill, his kit just sucks. He has no CC, no gap closer, does little damage, and is overall not real threat in any way past 20/30 minutes.
Of course there are.
Tier lists are supposed to emulate the highest levels of gameplay.
By saying "this works in diamond not lower levels" you're implying that there should be specific strategies for each level. This results in suboptimal strategies coming out to counter bad play rather than playing optimally to counter bad plays. That eventually creates huge gaps in between leagues, which is bad. Lower players are supposed to imitate higher levels of player and become like the higher level players to achieve a higher rank (this is what "improving" is).
As for my opinions towards the tier list:
- Udyr should be lower
- Trundle should be lower
- Pantheon higher
- Teemo lower
- Morde lower
- Zac lower
- Nasus around Singed or Singed around Nasus
- Shen higher
- Lee sin lower
- Poppy lower
What makes him unwanted pick for Europeans and NA?