"Broken" Sated Devourer interactions

[quote=NicknameMy]Jungle TF has after he has done his first 2-3 camps a as good clear as [[Pantheon]]. Post 6, he also outscales Pantheon's Damage very hard, which makes him way more usefull for teamfights and splitpushing than [[pantheon]]. His ult is also a better version of [[pantheon]]'s ultimate, no damage (which you never really hit anyway on [[pantheon]]), but for that you can see everyone and you appear twice as fast. His stun is basically the same as [[pantheon]], but he doesn't have to go in high danger to apply it. The range is also kinda the same if you know that [[pantheon]]'s is center to center and TF's is Edge to Edge. And, it also has a way lower cooldown and even more uses. I can't see at which things [[pantheon]] would be stronger than [[twisted fate]], except maybe level 1-5 but only if [[pantheon]] really exploids that strength to get ahead. This also doesn't means [[twisted fate]]'s flash gold card ganks aren't deadly. I would say, the best example for this you can see here: [embed=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4k7rEH0iDI] That said, that doesn't mean TF is is a top tier jungle currently as he has his weakness in terms of earlygame, but Pantheon isn't the best either, so i never said anything in that direction. And TF's counters are obvious as well, Lee Sin, Rek'sai, Elise and Nidalee.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi]I hear that Leona jungle is op xD[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Comparing the clear speed of Leona jungle to TF jungle is like comparing Nunu jungle to Shyvana jungle.[/quote]

[quote=Toshabi][quote=NicknameMy]Comparing the clear speed of Leona jungle to TF jungle is like comparing Nunu jungle to Shyvana jungle.[/quote] [img]http://home.mj-upbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/lou_ferrigno.jpg[/img][/quote]

[quote=Blian][quote=Toshabi]I hear that Leona jungle is op xD[/quote] [[Karma]] ftw[/quote]

[quote=MungoGeri][quote=NicknameMy]Lulu's Pix doesn't scale with Devourer[/quote] That is technically true. However, they both scale with attack speed, so when you make one better, you also make the other better.[/quote]

[quote=RottedApples]I tried to do teemo with sated, but my team just started hemorrhaging kills and pressure like 5 seconds into the game. I was actually doing fine on clears and stuff too :\ I'll probably try it again some time and see if I can actually get to sated.[/quote]

[quote=Kadius]No one has mentioned [[Talon]]? 0.0 Okay he takes the most skill probsably out of the szted users because you need to time this and it isnt always optimal but... If you aa q, your q damage procs twice which can oneshot a bruiser lategame in a full combo easily. Ive tried this out so many times and its op as fk serioiusly try it out... especially Vapora though I doubt he already hasnt...[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]One-time on-hit effects only proc once.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64][quote=Kadius]No one has mentioned [[Talon]]? 0.0 Okay he takes the most skill probsably out of the szted users because you need to time this and it isnt always optimal but... If you aa q, your q damage procs twice which can oneshot a bruiser lategame in a full combo easily. Ive tried this out so many times and its op as fk serioiusly try it out... especially Vapora though I doubt he already hasnt...[/quote] talon can already oneshot anything that doesnt have a ton of armor late game anyways also it doesnt work with his Q, just like it doesnt work with Nasus Q please dont build this item on talon anymore[/quote]