BigBoxGamer wrote:
Proven wrong not once, I mean if the time period where Nvidia was spending money on optimization is proof. Then you are in for a very rude awakening, because they only thing you've managed to post is how AMD only cares about one of three categories in gaming. Performance. Unfortunately, gaming is three categories and they are optimization, performance and quality.
- G-Sync
- OptiX
- PhysX
- Gelato
- GameWorks
- TXAA
Those are six reasons that Nvidia is better than AMD and whatever trash software the haphazardly put together. And, the new 390's 83 degrees aftermarket card is a pure joke. It's a re-branded 290, no more, no less. So, when you buy an AMD GPU, for every dollar you don't spend you don't get superior optimization with superior software. You put towards having to buy more fans than a PC should need to keep it from burning up. Also, on top of the fact that AMD cards don't get high quality, long term support that Nvidia cards do. Every year is another nail in the AMD coffin that they've been building for themselves. I think there's a good reason a company as good as Samsung realized how bad of an investment AMD would have been. They've already proven that much as a CPU maker, and they're proving that much as a GPU maker. You of all people should realize that you don't get your money's worth with AMD, and if I remember correctly. You're the one that posted a picture of your tower, and have more fans than any single PC should need. And, one last thing is that if you had to run the same AMD card for 8 solid years like I have with a GTX GeForce 260. Your GPU would quit out long before it ever became an extremely outdated piece of hardware. So, to end this... you have not once proven me wrong with your second place GPU company. I mean, first place loser GPU company. Don't forget, AMD GPU's are still ATI and ATI was going under for a reason. Their game was weak, and their hardware was trashware.
- G-Sync
- OptiX
- PhysX
- Gelato
- GameWorks
- TXAA
Those are six reasons that Nvidia is better than AMD and whatever trash software the haphazardly put together. And, the new 390's 83 degrees aftermarket card is a pure joke. It's a re-branded 290, no more, no less. So, when you buy an AMD GPU, for every dollar you don't spend you don't get superior optimization with superior software. You put towards having to buy more fans than a PC should need to keep it from burning up. Also, on top of the fact that AMD cards don't get high quality, long term support that Nvidia cards do. Every year is another nail in the AMD coffin that they've been building for themselves. I think there's a good reason a company as good as Samsung realized how bad of an investment AMD would have been. They've already proven that much as a CPU maker, and they're proving that much as a GPU maker. You of all people should realize that you don't get your money's worth with AMD, and if I remember correctly. You're the one that posted a picture of your tower, and have more fans than any single PC should need. And, one last thing is that if you had to run the same AMD card for 8 solid years like I have with a GTX GeForce 260. Your GPU would quit out long before it ever became an extremely outdated piece of hardware. So, to end this... you have not once proven me wrong with your second place GPU company. I mean, first place loser GPU company. Don't forget, AMD GPU's are still ATI and ATI was going under for a reason. Their game was weak, and their hardware was trashware.
but in finland the winters are very cold so i will save money if i have amd, yes?
but muh gaimworks and u used amd and save money in the same sentence so u are a peasant and ****
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I DON'T GET STUCK AND I NEVER GET ONLY 2LP FOR A WIN.
I AM UNRANKED.
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BigBoxGamer wrote:
If only I had a better GPU. Mostly PC, but still. I really want GeForce Experience.
Why? I wish I could delete that **** from my PC, cuz holy **** is it garbage.
OBS does what Shadowplay does, but better, with MUCH more functionality and options.
Gamestreaming through the internet is bound to be ****. 150ms minimum is to be expected in terms of visual delay. What they showed in the video is very likely done on a local network, not over the internet.
And then there's the game profiles. This could be useful to PC nabs that don't know anything about tuning graphics settings, but I have absolutely zero use of that.
BigBoxGamer wrote:
- G-Sync
- OptiX
- PhysX
- Gelato
- GameWorks
- TXAA
- OptiX
- PhysX
- Gelato
- GameWorks
- TXAA
G-Sync is both good and bad. It's good in the short-term, but a bad in the long term, for the market and ultimately the consumers.
Optix is useless for 99.999%(recurring) of people. The number of people that have use of this is vanishingly small.
PhysX is pretty ****. There are several better physics engines out today and PhysX is vendor-specific, meaning that it's bad for the market and consumers in the long run, just like G-Sync.
Gelato hasn't been updated since 2008, you ****wad XD
Who the **** would even consider using it over top-notch free software like Blender?
Gameworks isn't a feature, it's a collection of features, like PhysX and TXAA. Don't list it as a feature..
Last I checked TXAA was widely disliked because of the reduction in sharpness it brings, just like FXAA.
Now for fun fact time!
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It's a re-branded 290
Fun fact: Nvidia has re-branded cards many times in the past, and they still do today, but currently mostly the low-end cards. The Nvidia 9000 series was a complete re-brand though.
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Their game was weak, and their hardware was trashware.
Here's another fun fact for you: AMD absolutely CRUSHES Nvidia in compute power. Why do you think everybody used AMD cards for their bitcoin mining rigs?
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Vyn is the one that posted a picture of his tower, and have more fans than any single PC should need.
His PC probably runs both cooler and quieter than yours. You don't even know the first thing about airflow, do you?
"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens
Maaaaan, you're ****ing bad at this.
I'm gonna state the single two valid reasons to get an Nvidia GPU right now, and by the way, you haven't even mentioned one of them.
1. NVENC - Nvidia has a hardware encoder built into their cards. This means that you can record and stream video with very low performance impact. It's especially useful because software like OBS supports it (cuz Shadowplay is ****), with lots of options to tweak how it works.
2. Power efficiency - Nvidia GPUs are currently more power efficient than AMD GPUs for gaming. That means lower temperatures and/or sound levels.
As for why to buy AMD?
1. FreeSync - In a few years pretty much every single screen will use this, because it doesn't cost anything to include in the screen (unlike G-Sync). It works off existing technology and is a free standard, not vendor specific, meaning that it's automatically infinitely more likely to gain widespread adoption. Intel adopting FreeSync was pretty much the deciding factor, now it will be an industry standard. It's no longer a question of if, it's a question of when.
2. Better compute performance - Useless to 99% of people, but at least 1% isn't a vanishingly small number.
I'm gonna state the single two valid reasons to get an Nvidia GPU right now, and by the way, you haven't even mentioned one of them.
1. NVENC - Nvidia has a hardware encoder built into their cards. This means that you can record and stream video with very low performance impact. It's especially useful because software like OBS supports it (cuz Shadowplay is ****), with lots of options to tweak how it works.
2. Power efficiency - Nvidia GPUs are currently more power efficient than AMD GPUs for gaming. That means lower temperatures and/or sound levels.
As for why to buy AMD?
1. FreeSync - In a few years pretty much every single screen will use this, because it doesn't cost anything to include in the screen (unlike G-Sync). It works off existing technology and is a free standard, not vendor specific, meaning that it's automatically infinitely more likely to gain widespread adoption. Intel adopting FreeSync was pretty much the deciding factor, now it will be an industry standard. It's no longer a question of if, it's a question of when.
2. Better compute performance - Useless to 99% of people, but at least 1% isn't a vanishingly small number.
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"I also am Otherkin. Whenever autumn rolls around I can feel my kin-type slowly taking over my body. You must know, I identify as pumpkin. I can control it pretty good most of the time, but when September ends, I just cant hold it in anymore. Whenever Im outside I see my brothers and sisters being chopped into soup, coffee, donuts, cake, drinks, bread - ppl even cut human faces into their skin, making a mockery out of their noble appearance. When I see things like that I cant control my pumpkin urges anymore. My natural instincts kick in. I then sit down motionless, while getting bright orange." - Morgana L
Searz wrote:
Maaaaan, you're ****ing bad at this.
I'm gonna state the single two valid reasons to get an Nvidia GPU right now, and by the way, you haven't even mentioned one of them.
1. NVENC - Nvidia has a hardware encoder built into their cards. This means that you can record and stream video with very low performance impact. It's especially useful because software like OBS supports it (cuz Shadowplay is ****), with lots of options to tweak how it works.
2. Power efficiency - Nvidia GPUs are currently more power efficient than AMD GPUs for gaming. That means lower temperatures and/or sound levels.
As for why to buy AMD?
1. FreeSync - In a few years pretty much every single screen will use this, because it doesn't cost anything to include in the screen (unlike G-Sync). It works off existing technology and is a free standard, not vendor specific, meaning that it's automatically infinitely more likely to gain widespread adoption. Intel adopting FreeSync was pretty much the deciding factor, now it will be an industry standard. It's no longer a question of if, it's a question of when.
2. Better compute performance - Useless to 99% of people, but at least 1% isn't a vanishingly small number.
I'm gonna state the single two valid reasons to get an Nvidia GPU right now, and by the way, you haven't even mentioned one of them.
1. NVENC - Nvidia has a hardware encoder built into their cards. This means that you can record and stream video with very low performance impact. It's especially useful because software like OBS supports it (cuz Shadowplay is ****), with lots of options to tweak how it works.
2. Power efficiency - Nvidia GPUs are currently more power efficient than AMD GPUs for gaming. That means lower temperatures and/or sound levels.
As for why to buy AMD?
1. FreeSync - In a few years pretty much every single screen will use this, because it doesn't cost anything to include in the screen (unlike G-Sync). It works off existing technology and is a free standard, not vendor specific, meaning that it's automatically infinitely more likely to gain widespread adoption. Intel adopting FreeSync was pretty much the deciding factor, now it will be an industry standard. It's no longer a question of if, it's a question of when.
2. Better compute performance - Useless to 99% of people, but at least 1% isn't a vanishingly small number.
100% agreed, to add a few things though (though subjective):
1. In the high end segment (>650$) I see no reason to recommend AMD because an Nvidia model with good aftermarket cooler performs much better at anything that isn't 4k (where it's a tie), overclocks significantly better even on air and doesn't necessary produce more noise (coil whine).
2. AMD generally has better bang-for-buck options (esp. if you don't have to pay your own power bill) below that point, especially at higher resolutions than 1080p. E.g. 390 performs roughly as good as the 970, but beats it by a significant margin at 4k. The 390x goes head to head with the ~100$ more expensive 980 at 4k.
3. AMD is also rumoured to have much better DX12 support (and will see more significant improvement, if rumours are to believed), but so far that's only based on a single benchmark.
4. When looking at high-end CPU's, I sadly see no reason to recommend AMD at all. Only when you're looking for a cheap CPU with integrated graphics to play games on, the AMD APU's are a good option (Intel Iris Pro on broadwell is faster, but much more expensive).
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