Rod of Ages stats should exclude the passive bonus

[quote=JunSupport]Base stats: +450 Health +525 Mana +60 Ability Power [icon=Rod of Ages size=36] It has the stats added already. I think most players can be basic math. Having the bonus stats already applied leads to confusion for new players and users in general. :/[/quote]

[quote=Searz]Nah, it's better to have it provide the full stats.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Because...? If full stats are important, shouldn't they go in brackets so they match up with what people see in-game?[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]The only issue i see here is that from the text you accualy can read that it adds ANOTHER bonuses. It is better that it is considered stacked. At least for me.[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]That is the problem I'm getting at. While working on my Ryze build, I ended up have to check back through other databases 5 times over that week cause I couldn't remember if it was correct~[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]I've added a clarification to the passive description. I hope it is enaugh. Gonna do same with thirster and Warmog.[/quote]

[quote=Svingas][quote=DEWO] I've added a clarification to the passive description. I hope it is enaugh. Gonna do same with thirster and Warmog. [/quote] I am almost positive that the Bloodthirster passive is not included in the stats as it reads in the top section of guides. For example my guide states that at level 18 Sivir will have 242 attack damage with two bloodthirsters (200) + manamune (20+a percent of mana) + basic stats. That number would definitely be in the 300s.[/quote]

[quote=DEWO]Yes i've noticed that on Warmogs when i accualy was updating the items. Now we have 4 items which only 1 shows the 100% value which is RoA. Its either all or none...[/quote]

[quote=Svingas]Yeah, if some do and some don't, that will definitely lead to confusion.[/quote]