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[13.22] Arfreezy's Guide To Graves Jungle

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make a skin tier list too

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its at the end!

What do you think of the new eclipse changes with 12.13 it now having movement speed and the % armour pen? Does it change which mythic you favour or is it still gore into melee heavy and then eclipse rest of the time.

So I really like the survivability of the goredrinker bruiser build but I struggle with the early game invading like normal, I take ghost normally when I plan on going gore but I will try ignite tonight. Do you think gores only good if they have 4 melees or would 2 melees like tahm/vi who are always in your face still make gore a good choice? Eclipse bruiser still feels like you get popped before you get 3 items

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If your team has answers to the enemy backline, then you can even go with Gore against less melee champs. These answers would be like assassins or longer range carries or dive champions like Camille. If your team is heavily front to back focused like Kog Lulu and Urgot top, I would recommend just going Eclipse Bruiser and work on spacing if you feel like you die quickly.

Which build do you think is the best standard build on the durability patch? I feel like lethality falls off much quicker now. But would it be eclipse into bruiser or something like goredrinker/divine into bruiser?

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After my early testing, Bruiser builds are very strong. Umbral builds are nerfed. My personal build tier list is like this.
Eclipse Bruiser w/Fleet
Goredrinker Bruiser
Eclipse Crit
Lethality/Weird Crit Build/anything else
Divine on Graves doesnt really work, its been tested.

That's fantastic thank you

Is crit still viable, I don't know why but I always just feel like I'm doing more dmg with shieldbow and crit, is this true or is there more dmg around Eclipse builds now?

estou testando e gostando, mas darei minha opinião a profunda depois

Awesome guide! I appreciate the insights. Question, though, as I'm new to jungling and actually taking the ranked grind seriously...how do I play against very tanky matchups? Time and time again, I'm losing out to Trundle and Malphite or very obscure picks like Sion jungle. I usually rush Lord Dominick's in this case and follow up with Mortal Reminder but it's still not enough.

Cool guide for beginners with graves :)

good

You might want to add the Phase Rush build to the rune section since it's referenced a few times in the guide.

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Hey! I actually had it in the guide originally, but removed it and many of the builds to keep it simpler for new players. I will be doing a full guide update for season 12 this month before the ranked season starts and update all of the sections and matchups to reflect the most current meta builds and information! Thanks for the feedback

Hi!Nice guide! Can you put a build code? I wanna import it.
Thx again,have a good day.

is phase rush even viable still?

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not very popular after the nerf, but its still a great option versus slow based junglers like Olaf or Trundle because you will be able to 1v1 them the entire game.

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Hi there!

I have a comment about abusing in the early game, and I have a question about runes.

When abusing pre-6 you should look to invade a lot and prevent him from getting his camps. He'll often do a 5 camp clear, which he does extremely quickly. If you ward in his jungle along his likely path before the buffs spawn then you will be aware of his location and you can easily invade and 1v1 him. If you're curious as to how I know this, I'm an OTP and even though I hate when that happens I know that it's what should be done.

For runes, I was wondering what the best one to take right now is? I know Crit has been seriously nerfed in preseason but you mention it as being your favorite and I was wondering if it really is more powerful than the other runes/builds?

Well done on the guide and good luck on the Rift!

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Hello!

Actually, I added Ekko to my champion pool last season because I felt like Jungle Ekko was frustratingly powerful and it was a matchup I didn't enjoy as Graves so I am very familiar with it. Generally if you can make it to your mythic item without falling behind on Ekko you start to snowball very hard. This matchup is hard enough for Graves that I have a special section in my guide that talks about it "Jungle Matchups Guide: Special AP Junglers", but it hasn't been finished yet.

As far as the runes go, Phase Rush and Fleet footwork primary are both very viable options. I take Phase Rush to punish weak enemy junglers and get ahead early, or I will take Fleet to help in more difficult matchups where it is harder to bully the enemy jungler such as Hecarim. For secondary trees, Domination is currently insane due to the change to Ravenous Hunter which allows Grave to heal from his autos (previously it was only abilities that healed you and AOE abilities had reduced healing so it wasn't great on Graves). Since there are some good crit items now like Collector, BT, etc you are guaranteed to get high value out of this rune. I recently had a game where Ravenous healed me for 6k hp in a 29minute game which is absurd value from a non-keystone rune.

Lethality/Crit build is still very strong on Graves despite the nerfs to Eclipse since you can take Duskblade or Prowler's (recently buffed), but it isn't as busted as 10.23. Crit marksmen are getting some type of buff soon and with the buffs to items like Essence Reaver and possible crit item buffs coming along with the new Ravenous Hunter, I think crit Graves can be very strong. I will do more testing on the crit builds and upload some youtube videos on my channel showing how they go. That crit healing build is missing some attack speed so I want to try replacing collector with stormrazor. Also need to test out Galeforce further as an alternative to Immortal Shieldbow.

Hope that answers your question, thanks for commenting!

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